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lonestar2004
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Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

#9868710 - 02/26/09 09:48 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Barack Obama will ask Congress for more than $200 billion to fund U.S. war efforts for the next year and a half, according to defense officials.

The request will be for $75.5 billion for the rest of the 2009 fiscal year to cover the cost of sending more troops to Afghanistan this year and additional $130 billion for 2010, according to the sources.

War spending for 2010 will be part of the president's overall defense funding request, which is expected to be announced Thursday.

The money will be in addition to $534 billion for the U.S. Defense Department's other expenditures, which the president is expected to request from Congress.

Congress gave the Pentagon $65.9 billion for the first half of fiscal 2009.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/26/war.spending/index.html

Is spending $$$Billions for war "Change" ?????

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

[Re: lonestar2004]
#9868719 - 02/26/09 09:49 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yes.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

[Re: lonestar2004]
#9868815 - 02/26/09 10:04 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Is spending $$$Billions for war "Change" ?????

Shouldn't you guys be cheerleading for this? I thought you guys liked sinking reckless amounts of money into unwinnable wars! :grin:

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

[Re: lonestar2004]
#9868930 - 02/26/09 10:24 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
Is spending $$$Billions for war "Change" ?????

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The budget projects slightly lower spending on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to $130 billion in the 2010 fiscal year, then a much larger drop beginning in fiscal 2011, when Mr. Obama wants to have combat forces out of Iraq. The basic military budget in 2010 would be $534 billion in 2010.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/us/politics/27web-budget.html?_r=1&hp

I consider that a pretty solid change from the policies of the Bush administration.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869058 - 02/26/09 10:45 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would love to see us get out post haste. I have serious doubts that it's going to make any difference how soon we leave as to what happens over there when we are gone.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

[Re: gluke bastid]
#9869292 - 02/26/09 11:27 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Is spending $$$Billions for war "Change" ?????

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The budget projects slightly lower spending on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to $130 billion in the 2010 fiscal year, then a much larger drop beginning in fiscal 2011, when Mr. Obama wants to have combat forces out of Iraq. The basic military budget in 2010 would be $534 billion in 2010.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/27/us/politics/27web-budget.html?_r=1&hp

I consider that a pretty solid change from the policies of the Bush administration.

"The money will be in addition to $534 billion for the U.S. Defense Department's other expenditures, which the president is expected to request from Congress."

Jesus......

Yes we can!!!! (keep fucking the American taxpayer in the ass....)

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869294 - 02/26/09 11:28 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

> I consider that a pretty solid change from the policies of the Bush administration.

Slightly lower is pretty solid (significant)? Lemme guess, you voted for the schmuck?

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869304 - 02/26/09 11:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Virus_with_Shoes said:
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Is spending $$$Billions for war "Change" ?????

Shouldn't you guys be cheerleading for this? I thought you guys liked sinking reckless amounts of money into unwinnable wars!

i was never for the Iraq war and i dont support Obama's new Vietnam war either...

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869316 - 02/26/09 11:31 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Seuss said:
> I consider that a pretty solid change from the policies of the Bush administration.

Slightly lower is pretty solid (significant)? Lemme guess, you voted for the schmuck?

Like many on this board he claims that he did not vote for him while defending him daily.....

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869697 - 02/26/09 12:31 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

If he follows through on lowering the amounts of money each year and we are out of the country by 2011 then yes, that is about as much change as I expect from the Dems.

What were you expecting, immediate withdrawal? :rolleyes:

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869802 - 02/26/09 12:48 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
Like many on this board he claims that he did not vote for him while defending him daily.....

This is the most unsubstantiated and least provable claim that you have ever made.

I read through the lines of your partisan post, did a little research, and point out that Obama's budget calls for a steady reduction of funding for the military with a plan to withdrawal from Iraq in two years.

In typical fashion, due to the fact that I was pointing out the bias and exaggeration of your post, I get labelled an Obamabot, despite the fact that I have been vocally attacking his Economic Stimulus/Bail Out Bullshit plan since day 1. My approval of Obama is non-existant. But that doesn't make me stupid enough to be able to differentiate between him and the previous jackass to hold office.

I have said it before and I will say it again. My main enemy on this board is the blindness with which both the Repugnicans and the Democraps will make shit up to make their opponents seem worse. Its a disgusting habit and makes the world a more stupid place to live. I will attack it wherever and whenever I see it.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9869837 - 02/26/09 12:53 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:

What were you expecting, immediate withdrawal?

Yeah Seuss where would get that idea?

Obama’s website

'Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq.

"The best way to protect our security and to pressure Iraq’s leaders to resolve their civil war is to immediately begin to remove our combat troops. Not in six months or one year —

Now!”

Barack Obama

"Let me be clear:"

"There is no military solution in Iraq and there never was,” Obama said in excerpts of the speech provided to The Associated Press."

http://www.theamericanmind.com/2008/03/07/samantha-power-obamas-withdrawal-plan-is-best-case-scenario/

"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for the immediate withdrawal of all U.S. combat brigades from Iraq, with the pullout being completed by the end of next year."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296530,00.html

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9870111 - 02/26/09 01:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
If he follows through on lowering the amounts of money each year and we are out of the country by 2011 then yes, that is about as much change as I expect from the Dems.

What were you expecting, immediate withdrawal?

Didn't he promise that in his campaign?

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9870126 - 02/26/09 01:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So it's that typical bullshit of saying anything people want to hear to get elected crap.

And I'm supposed to trust this guy. You know what they say about how to tell if a politician is lying. :thumbdown:

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9870609 - 02/26/09 02:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

> What were you expecting, immediate withdrawal? :rolleyes:

Yes. That was the promise he made, and I expected him to keep it. Silly me. How easy it is to fool the sheep. (Considering I believed him for a brief second, I count myself among the sheep in this case.)

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9870656 - 02/26/09 03:02 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Well consider this. A sheep who wakes up can become the wolf.

Of course mutton gets old as a steady diet.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9871333 - 02/26/09 04:47 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Situations change.

Let me get this straight.

Your ideal candidate would follow any statement he made on the campaign, to the letter, for his entire term?

No deviations in strategy for changes in conditions?

Would George Bush, following your example, have continued to wage war on Iraq for the entire length of his Presidency, regardless that the government there was now an ally, simply because that is what he campaigned to do in a different situation some time before?

This is patently absurd.

And you want to launch into a denunciation of Obama's entire administration and platform as an outright fraud because he is going to require *four months longer* to remove the troops from Iraq than he said he would need?

Is it really inconceivable that the situation has changed enough in the time since he made the statement that additional time might be required? Could the input he is given from the military that he has access to as President have changed his views?

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9871590 - 02/26/09 05:17 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I think the "change" is actually putting in the budget instead of pretending war doesn't cost anything.

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#9871668 - 02/26/09 05:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

> Your ideal candidate would follow any statement he made on the campaign, to the letter, for his entire term?

Perhaps not, but I would hope he wouldn't flip flop in the first thirty days of office. Pray tell, what condition has changed so drastically since He took office that He can't keep His campaign promise to get out of Iraq?

> Would George Bush

Who cares? George Bush isn't president. Obama is. I care about what Obama is doing, not what Bush has done (unless somebody is going to try him for war crimes).

> Obama's entire administration and platform as an outright fraud because he is going to require *four months longer*

Time will tell. However, he promised to remove troops immediately at a rate of two combat brigades per month. It has been one month, how many troops have been removed?

> Could the input he is given from the military that he has access to as President have changed his views?

Perhaps he should have consulted them before making his promises.

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Re: Obama seeks $200 billion for war spending

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#9871771 - 02/26/09 05:45 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Yes. That was the promise he made, and I expected him to keep it. Silly me. How easy it is to fool the sheep. (Considering I believed him for a brief second, I count myself among the sheep in this case.)

That's just a ridiculous position considering you are holding the president to a higher standard than his promises. He hasn't ACTUALLY broken his promise yet. Let's look at what his promise says:

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"Barack Obama will work with military commanders on the ground in Iraq and in consultation with the Iraqi government to end the war safely and responsibly within 16 months."

Obama Promise Meter

At least wait a few months before you make up unfounded accusations. As MTT has already pointed out, you are holding the president to a much higher standard than you would a Republican candidate probably out of some misplaced desire to see him fail (See Rush Limbaugh).

If you want something real and substantive to attack the president on, try the stimulus bill. That thing is a terribly misguided idea... and no not just because of the pork.

I'd really recommend checking this website to keep some of you honest about how the president has been conforming to his campaign promises. At present he has kept 16 of his campaign promises, compromised on 6 and broke 2 promises so that makes him 16-6-2. Not too shabby but not flawless but then again why would you expect that from anyone, especially a politician? Obamameter

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