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Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats
#9834615 - 02/20/09 06:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mexican city police chief resigns amid threats February 20, 2009 - Associated Press
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) — Ciudad Juarez's police chief stepped down Friday after criminal gangs made a chilling demand: Resign or we will kill more local officials.
Public Safety Secretary Roberto Orduna announced he was leaving his post only hours after gunmen killed a police officer and a jail guard and left signs on their bodies saying they had fulfilled a promise made Wednesday to slay at least one officer every 48 hours until Orduna quits.
The slayings were a grim sign that criminal gangs are determined to control the police force of the biggest Mexican border city, with a population of 1.3 million people across from El Paso, Texas.
Mayor Jose Reyes insisted earlier Friday the city would not back down.
"We will not allow the control of the police force to fall in the hands of criminal gangs," he said.
But Orduna said he didn't want to endanger more officers.
"We can't allow men who work defending our citizens to continue to lose their lives," he said. "That is why I am presenting my permanent resignation."
The resignation was effective immediately. Authorities said an interim chief would be named later Friday, and a permanent replacement would be found in the coming weeks.
A retired army major, Orduna took over as chief in May after former Public Safety Secretary Guillermo Prieto resigned and fled to El Paso following the slaying of his operations director.
For Orduna's protection, the city built his bedroom at the police station so he didn't have to go home. He also travels in different vehicles when he does go out.
Ciudad Juarez police have long come under attack, and many officers have quit out of fear for their lives, some after their names appeared on hit lists left in public throughout the city.
Police officer Cesar Ivan Portillo was the fifth officer killed this week in Mexico's deadliest city.
Police were placed on "red alert" — meaning they could not patrol alone — after cardboard signs with handwritten messages appeared taped to the doors and windows of businesses Wednesday, warning Orduna that one officer would be killed every two days if he did not quit.
That alert continued Friday after Orduna stepped down.
Police have also been asked to patrol with their guns in their hands.
More than 6,000 people have been killed in drug violence across Mexico over the past year as gangs battle each other for territory and fight off a nationwide crackdown by the army. Nearly a third of the slayings have taken place in Ciudad Juarez, and more than 50 of those dead are city police officers.
Violence also has spilled across the border into the U.S., where authorities report a spike in killings, kidnappings and home invasions connected to Mexico's murderous cartels.
Homeland Security officials have said they will bring in the military if the violence continues to grow and threatens the U.S. border region.
"The violence is spreading like wildfire across the Rio Grande," said George Grayson, a Mexico expert at the College of William & Mary in Virginia. "It's a major national security problem for us that is much more important than Iraq and Afghanistan."
Robert Almonte, executive director of the Texas Narcotics Officers Association, said that, while El Paso has been spared most of the violence, the escalating killings across the border in Juarez are worrisome.
"I think it's jarring ... we can't even fathom those kinds of things happening here in the United States," Almonte said.
Also Friday, the U.S. State Department renewed a travel advisory warning Americans about the increased violence along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Some Mexicans have questioned whether President Felipe Calderon's two-year, nationwide crackdown on drug gangs was worth all the killings.
But Calderon and his administration have defended the fight, with Economy Secretary Gerardo Ruiz Mateos saying on Wednesday that if Mexico gave up its fight against the cartels, "the next president of the republic would be a drug dealer."
Portillo and city jail guard Juan Pablo Ruiz were killed as they left their homes before dawn to head to work, city spokesman Jaime Torres said.
Three days earlier, assailants fatally shot police operations director Sacramento Perez, the chief's right-hand man, and three other officers who were sitting with him in a patrol car near the U.S. consulate.
The bodies of Perez and one of the officers were sent to their home states Thursday to be buried, and the city planned to hold a ceremony Friday for the two others from Ciudad Juarez.
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Green_T
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: veggie]
#9834689 - 02/20/09 07:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Things are really bad over there, and its only across a river you could throw a stone across!
Technically he gave into terrorism, but he probably saved a couple of lives by doing so. Mexico will turn into a failed state within 2 years unless we make serious changes to our drug policy. We don't have any troops to send over there, and it wouldn't be a popular reason.
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: Green_T]
#9834827 - 02/20/09 07:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're right, he probably did save a few lives by quitting. Possibly even his own.
I don't know about Mexico becoming a failed state, but we certainly must change our drug laws. More and more people now see the violence is not a result of drugs but the USA's failed drug policy.
Sometimes I think the US wants Mexico to become a failed state. I'm not sure why, maybe whoever the puppet masters are in DC want to take over the country. While we don't have troops there, we are certainly financing the violence. We send millions to Mexico to wage war agaist the cartels and we send weapons and millions to the cartels.
I am more worried that the US could become a failed state in two years.
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: veggie]
#9835405 - 02/20/09 10:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Excellent, hopefully they can push it until there's full-blown anarchy in the streets.
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: deCypher]
#9835464 - 02/20/09 10:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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deCypher said: Excellent, hopefully they can push it until there's full-blown anarchy in the streets.
it already is like that man! death threats everywhere! they are slaying police like nothing! its so crazy to think that America, with all of our brilliant minds, have not come to the conclusion that its OUR fault all these people are dying! all of our founding fathers and such must be shaking their heads up above because of us
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Green_T
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: AcIdRaInDrOpS]
#9835600 - 02/20/09 11:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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More people are dying in Mexico from drug war violence than people in Iraq (http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/mexico/articles/20081215.aspx). People don't really know about this, and probably won't care until they are marines from small town America who are taking the bullets because the mega-church's pastor buys his cocaine illegally.
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Re: Ciudad Juarez's police chief resigns amid threats [Re: veggie]
#9836431 - 02/21/09 01:44 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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veggie said: Some Mexicans have questioned whether President Felipe Calderon's two-year, nationwide crackdown on drug gangs was worth all the killings.
Is even ONE killing worth the drug crackdown? People need to realize these are people being killed, not characters in a movie. Why are these people dying?
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