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 PE monotub (photos) Updated 1st flush wet and dry weights (after 1st post)   1
#9814332 - 02/17/09 03:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi fellas !
I have been following blood4blood's '80 gram PE mutant' and iMtRiPpIn's 'PE Bulk Grow Log' and am going to start this tread so I don't have to hijack their's for updates.
I figured I was about eight days in trail of iMtRiPpIn's grow ....
WBS was inoculated with a PE isolate and the quart jars were fully colonized in 10 to 14 days.
Four jars were spawned to a bulk substrate of HManure, coir, vermiculite and gypsum in an 18 gallon monotub.
The bulk substrate was fully colonized in 9 or 10 days:
Then into fruiting conditions for 11 to 12 days before I saw pins. (Cambodian genetics I have been using would have shown pins in 5 days .... so the PE was a 'wait' for me.)
I was expecting a lot of mutants (maybe even an 80 gram'r!) and small 'normal' fruits on the first flush based on the genetics I was using .... didn't really know what to expect ..... now the 1st flush pinset is more developed:
There are mutants (not as many as I expected) and 'normal' fruits. Some fruits look like they will get fairly big.
The question is: When to pick?
The veils are already torn .... so that indicator is not really relevant .... Do you pick when growth stops?
Anyway ... happy so far with my first PE experience.
I felt one of the larger fruits ... hard as a rock ! and the substrate is covered with knots.
When do you guys pick PE?
Thanks.
Edit: Update.
There is some good information here from ronjohn and others. Thank you. I would have picked these when they were much smaller.
Yippppeeeee !
I thought I'd better show this tub off before I picked any of the fruits.
2nd Update: Well .... I picked some fruits .... maybe 1/2 of the tub if the remaining fruits continue to develop. Wet weight was ridiculous: 988.2 grams
These two were joined at their bases ... so really two fruits.
Had a number like this .... couldn't quite break the 60 gram mark.
I'll keep track of what the tub does total on it's 1st flush.
Another Update: Here's 2.2 lbs wet ... that's a kilo fellas !
and this many more unpicked .. grow ! grow !
PE is SICK.
Update: 1st flush wet weight: 1,921.5 grams.
dry weight: 159.1 grams
I dried them in my dehydrator for 36 hours .... cracker dry.
Edited by uncle_rico (02/26/09 12:44 PM)
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9814353 - 02/17/09 03:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think your should pick when the veil brakes from the steam not 100% sure. I'm sure someone will inform you in a min. Also if growth stops it could be an Abort if not picked with rot any mess the whole cake up!
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9814367 - 02/17/09 03:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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very nice man,i cant wait to work with pe.
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Great job..
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: PolkAudio2]
#9814387 - 02/17/09 03:41 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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polk if ur gonna post on a thread try reading it first "the veils are already torn" people get pissy about that stuff. just a heads up
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I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: madwire3]
#9814397 - 02/17/09 03:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know they had already torn thats what I was saying cuz.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: PolkAudio2]
#9814422 - 02/17/09 03:47 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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do some reading pe don't fallow the rules. what I've read from these guys I they are the buttheads of the cube family. take their sweet time. throw mutants. and someone said their veils torn early then where ready to harvest like 3 days later..
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I agree totally. However, this forum isn't for the experienced growers, because they already know the ropes. It's for the new growers who are just starting out. Sometimes the hardest part about learning something new is un-learning bad info. That's why I tend to correct people for calling a substrate tray a 'casing', etc.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: PolkAudio2]
#9814433 - 02/17/09 03:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
PolkAudio2 said:
I think your should pick when the veil brakes from the steam not 100% sure. I'm sure someone will inform you in a min. Also if growth stops it could be an Abort if not picked with rot any mess the whole cake up!
You'd be right with any other mushrooms. However usually the veil breaks very early on PE. Mine break before the caps pop open and that's even if they have a noticable veil to begin with.
To the O.P pick them when the stem directly under the cap is the same or near the same width as the middle of the stem. Usually if the top area is narrower than the middle it still has plenty of growing to do. Another sign it is ready to pick is when you get wrinkling on the stem bellow the cap. The you know for sure it's good to go. I'll post some pics when I get out of class. Right now I'm on my iPhone. In any case all I grow is PE so you can trust this some good info. Lots of people pick them too early by mistake if they haven't grown this strain before.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: PolkAudio2]
#9814436 - 02/17/09 03:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah .... I am quite familiar with harvesting at veil tear'age with other strains.
This Penis Envy is 'different' and I don't have any experience with it.
It seems like the pins have torn veils or no veils or maybe they tear very early.
Interesting strain.
edit: you guys type a lot faster than I do !
Edited by uncle_rico (02/17/09 03:52 PM)
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OK . Mr. RonJohn,
Thanks MAN.
I look forward to seeing your photos.
edit: typo
Edited by uncle_rico (02/17/09 03:55 PM)
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9814485 - 02/17/09 04:00 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry you guy's I was not paying attention to the strain. I'm wanting to grow Copelandia, Cyanenscens or Hawaiian Cubes I have spore prints of both.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: PolkAudio2]
#9815829 - 02/17/09 07:59 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr. Polk,
The Hawaiian cube would be a good one to start with.
I have heard good reports on the PESH (pacific exotica spores hawaiian) .... it's cultivation parameters are straight forward (easy ... like all cubes) and you hear that, like PE, PESH are uniquely potent. I'll probably get flamed for writing that about the PESH potency ... but that is the WORD from experienced folks. ?
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9816099 - 02/17/09 08:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry these are a bit blurry. I just got done with school and I used a camera phone. I'm pretty lazy but they should do the trick.
See the nice uniform shape from lower shaft of the stem to the top. This one buldges out a bit at top but thats totally fine. As long as it isn't thiner on top than the bottom.
The first pic is a slightly dry PE's just picked a few hours ago. You can see the uniformed shape I spoke of.
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Mr. RonJohn,
Thank you very much.
Your explanation and killer art work rules !
only one criticism ..... you wrote, "The top part of the stem should be the same as the rest. Like a snake."
like a snake? how about, LIKE A PENIS ! ?
Thanks MAN
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9816595 - 02/17/09 10:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
uncle_rico said:
Mr. RonJohn,
Thank you very much.
Your explanation and killer art work rules !
only one criticism ..... you wrote, "The top part of the stem should be the same as the rest. Like a snake."
like a snake? how about, LIKE A PENIS ! ?
Thanks MAN
No prob man. If you need more help just PM me. Like I said all I've ever grown and most likely will ever grow is PE. If you couldn't tell I was totally trying to avoid any reference to penises. Thanks for calling me out...God I hate you people...J/K.
(I also meant to write a snake's body but ran out of room).
P.S. save those pics if you want I'll most likely delete them in a week or so. Just to give you a heads up.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9817336 - 02/18/09 12:03 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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The veil on PE tears very early so you can't use that method...the photographs posted by ronjohn are helpful. Give them a good week to grow out, depending on your temps.
I strongly recommend casing and using Hyphaes pinning strategy. It will improve the pinset. Ryches 50/50+ is a good mix. That pinset you have will grow in quite nicely. Just let them grow out. PE (or any cube) is a slow fruiter with cooler temps also. Lower temps are recommended to improve potency. I wouldn't harvest until they all finish and then harvest all at once. Be careful misting PE will abort and is sensitive to misting. Don't forget to post some centerfolds.
Edited by iMtRiPpIn (02/18/09 12:12 AM)
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: iMtRiPpIn]
#9817468 - 02/18/09 12:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey Mr. Tripp'n,
Yep ..... I usually like to apply a casing layer and Hyphae's strategy ... yes yes yes .. and 50/50+ with a touch of coir is my favorite .... I knew the PE was a slow fruiter and I worried about trich developing before the first flush finished .... so I went without.
I also like to mist .... and did ..... and noticed some darker spots on the caps .... probably from residual moisture sitting on them .... so I stopped that and will let the moisture in the substrate finish the first flush ... then dunk.
I bounce back and forth between babying them and neglect.
They are growing bigger and I hope some will be good photographic subjets.
Thanks MAN.
I'll tell you what has me excited .... these suckers are dense .... I mean SOLID. I'll post wet and dry weights and my bud, Mr. justme, will provide a trip report.
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico] 1
#9817694 - 02/18/09 01:15 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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no trip report. youll be able to see it in my eyes if theyre GOOD
but im  anyway thinkin about em
any advice on these maz trays that i drowned?
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: just me]
#9817710 - 02/18/09 01:20 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you're on the right track.
Put them outside and let the Trade Winds dry them out.
won't take long.
I've had bulk substrate trays get drenched in rain and were under 1/4" of water .... drained them off and let them dry out a bit ... and away they went.
Edited by uncle_rico (02/18/09 01:24 AM)
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Re: PE monotub (photos) [Re: uncle_rico]
#9817789 - 02/18/09 01:38 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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uncle_rico said:
Hey Mr. Tripp'n,
Yep ..... I usually like to apply a casing layer and Hyphae's strategy ... yes yes yes .. and 50/50+ with a touch of coir is my favorite .... I knew the PE was a slow fruiter and I worried about trich developing before the first flush finished .... so I went without.
I also like to mist .... and did ..... and noticed some darker spots on the caps .... probably from residual moisture sitting on them .... so I stopped that and will let the moisture in the substrate finish the first flush ... then dunk.
I bounce back and forth between babying them and neglect.
They are growing bigger and I hope some will be good photographic subjets.
Thanks MAN.
I'll tell you what has me excited .... these suckers are dense .... I mean SOLID. I'll post wet and dry weights and my bud, Mr. justme, will provide a trip report.
Yes they are dense. Once they dry they are like little logs. Yes I recommend stop misting. The 50/50+ should not contam if the PH is right. The ratios listed there should work perfectly.
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