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 hck
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 g2g shooting blanks? 
#9801803 - 02/15/09 09:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey
I did a g2g with oyster spawn and a dozen or so jars of rye berries. the jars looked great. no contam. after about three weeks I made up bags with wheat straw substrate and used a hefty amount of the spawn but after two weeks some of the bags were dead.
though a beginner still Ive had a good amount of success in the past with g2g spawn and straw substrate. a couple of the bags are producing well. but as I said the others looked like my g2g were shooting blanks.
what could have been wrong? The spawn seemed a bit dry in a few jars. could that be it?
Im just trying to avoid the problem if I can figure what it is.
thanks
HCK
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Re: g2g shooting blanks? [Re: hck]
#9801817 - 02/15/09 09:25 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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what was your pasteurization method? Do the non colonized bags have a smell?
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Re: g2g shooting blanks? [Re: hck]
#9801939 - 02/15/09 10:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Show photos and try to give as much details as you can regarding your methods, moisture, temp, etc. Just saying some spawn died doesn't give enough hints to say how it happened.
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Re: g2g shooting blanks? [Re: Mycelio]
#9802707 - 02/15/09 01:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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i soaked the straw in a bleech water bath over night.
the bags eventually had a smell after a few weeks but could see no contam
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Re: g2g shooting blanks? [Re: hck]
#9807569 - 02/16/09 10:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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The bleach bath method for straw requires a very high spawn rate and very clean procedure with gloves,etc.. so more spawn and sterility will make it work. Are you doing blue, king oysters?
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Bleach kills mycelium. Whoever came up with this method should take a bleach bath himself, IMHO.
For a beginner with straw there is no better method then classical pasteurisation. It can be done with regular kitchen stuff plus a thermometer. very easy, and very much repeatable.
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Re: g2g shooting blanks? [Re: denger]
#9812867 - 02/17/09 06:30 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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white and elm.
though i can appreciate denger's comment about the bleach method, I've had pretty good luck with it in the past.
yes, I did use alot of spawn. It has to be the spawn.
i keep a seed warmer in a covered plastic tub with my g2g jars of rye for a week or so when I first make them up.
maybe the temp got too high for them?
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