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 psilyguy
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 Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe?  [Re: durian_2008]
#9700819 - 01/29/09 03:11 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
Things are passive receptacles of conscious energy and can either be used or misused.
This is a fundamental precept of libertarianism.
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psilyguy said:
you are a noun my friend, do you have an opinion of yourself?
The word, "you," is a pronoun, denoting the use(v) of an object(n).
My self can be used or misused, cool or uncool, depending upon how I exercise my ownership of it.
Likewise, Salvia is cool or uncool, depending upon how you exercise your ownership of it.
lol i think you may have smoked a little too much 
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tyler_0_durden
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Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe? [Re: psilyguy]
#9703805 - 01/30/09 12:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think salvia should remain legal. It's a very mind-opening hallucinogen in and of itself. We should be able to have hallucinogens in our society. If kept away from irresponsible people, no harm can come from them. Why can't I alter my consciousness and discover more about myself, if I keep it safe? 
I'm so glad Washington St. doesn't have a law, or even a bill about this yet.
The minute they do, I'm buying a couple vials of potent salvia and saving them. I could breakthrough any time I want now...I think that's pretty cool. Once you do it a couple times, you can breakthrough on pretty much any dose. Usually 20X is good enough to do it for me...10X just makes everything look like it's swelling in size. 
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"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter." --Max Planck
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 BlindSophist
drunken preacher
Registered: 07/11/06
Posts: 20,221
Loc: SF Bay Area
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Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#9703848 - 01/30/09 12:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I enjoy watching it get struck down time and time again in Cali. 
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Love of one is a barbarism; for it is exercised at the expense of all others. The love of God, too.
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durian_2008
Registered: 04/02/08
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Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe? [Re: BlindSophist]
#9705740 - 01/30/09 12:35 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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We should be able to have hallucinogens in our society. If kept away from irresponsible people, no harm can come from them.
How would you do that?
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psilyguy
Registered: 12/03/08
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Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe? [Re: durian_2008]
#9705786 - 01/30/09 12:47 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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durian_2008 said:
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We should be able to have hallucinogens in our society. If kept away from irresponsible people, no harm can come from them.
How would you do that?
i know! make them illegal except as prescribed by a doctor!
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Cognitive_Shift
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Registered: 12/11/07
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Re: Controversial legal hallucinogen ?safe? [Re: psilyguy]
#9705891 - 01/30/09 01:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prescription drugs get abused. Look at OxyContin. I personally think all substances should be legal because its our right to experiment with our own conscious. However our current society isn't ready to make that transition yet, we need to get psychedelics approved for psychotherapy, and discovering more about mental illness before we march on to legalization and education about responsible use.
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