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 libertaire
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 Idea for making wood-lover spawn 
#9695266 - 01/28/09 03:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Would this idea work for starting wood-lover spawn?
1.) Soak some cardboard, cut into discs, and place the discs on the bottom of jars.
2.) Squirt some spore water/scrape some spores onto the soaked discs.
3.) Once colonized(assuming they colonize, that's the part I'm not sure of), fill the jars the rest of the way with soaked wood chips.
4.) Once colonized, spawn to more wood chips.
As I said, the only part I'm not certain of is the part about colonizing cardboard straight from spores. I know that once there is an established mycelium colony, you can then move on to wood chips, but my searches on the cardboard subject came up with mixed responses - some said no way, other said yes.
I'm trying to avoid using agar until I have a more sterile environment and a pressure cooker, and I figured since both cardboard and wood chips are not colonized by contaminants very easily, this would be the best route to go. Any thoughts?
To those who already saw this post in the other thread, I apologize for putting you through the same thing twice, no one was responding.
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 German Kahuna
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 Re: Idea for making wood-lover spawn [Re: libertaire]
#9695420 - 01/28/09 03:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why not. It's worth a try. I personally wouldn't touch ANYTHING without a pressure cooker. I am a fundamentalist when it comes to that. I don't even want to hear about any of the "dude, but it works just soaking it in bleach!" reports.
If you do what you intend to do, I'd soak the cardboard and then at least microwave it for a bit. That should get most of what's stuck to the cardboard killed good and proper. Woodlovers will not fruit from anything that's been sterilized, but they will colonize it.
The next step would be to get some wood shavings from the pet shop and boil those (always assuming no PC available) until they are saturated with water. Use THAT to fill the jars. Once the jars are fully colonized, you can spawn to soaked wood chips directly in the outdoor bed (not sterilized wood chips, just soaked!!)
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libertaire
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Re: Idea for making wood-lover spawn [Re: German Kahuna]
#9696648 - 01/28/09 07:06 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was thinking about spawning the jars to bags of wood chips, which like you said, would be soaked, not sterilized, which would in turn be used as spawn to make the beds. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Idea for making wood-lover spawn [Re: libertaire]
#9967148 - 03/13/09 08:35 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just an update on this for anyone curious parties. I tried this with friscosa spores. It didn't work. A few weeks went by and there was zero germination on cardboard. I eventually inoculated some pf jars with some more friscosa spores, and the leftover spore water I had was completely overloaded with spores, very dark, so I soaked a cardboard disc in this and tried again. Still nothing. Spores most definitely do not germinate on cardboard. It may work with liquid culture, but I'm already on to the spawn building part right now, as opposed to germination, and all my jars are in use, so I won't be able to try it again until probably next year. I do think that perhaps I'll try it again in the future with lc to see, but spores on their own will not work. Just in case anyone was wondering.
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