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 Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] 
#9675935 - 01/25/09 01:58 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Molly=Ecstasy=MDMA. At least that's the way it has always been. The people who should be in the know, just don't know. The bottom line is, the crackdown on the relatively benign MDMA causes an increase in dangerous and sometimes deadly drugs hitting the streets. This wasn't an issue prior to being scheduled ...
Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly'
January 24, 2009 - marinij.com
A new party drug appears to be seeping into Marin, similar to ecstasy but more potent and less widely understood, county investigators said.
The street name is "molly," which some sources describe as a purer form of ecstasy, and others describe as different substances that mimic ecstasy. The name molly is said to mean "molecule" or "molecular" - as in a molecular variation of ecstasy.
Until about a year ago, the Marin County Major Crimes Task Force, the county's narcotics squad, had never encountered molly during its undercover operations. Since then, the unit has seized molly seven times and arrested six people suspected of selling it, according to sheriff's Sgt. Bruce Baker.
"The unique thing about this, we talked to other task forces, we talked about it at conventions. Other task forces aren't seeing it and aren't buying it like we are," Baker said.
Definitions of "molly" vary. In 2003, an announcement by the federal Drug Enforcement Administration defined the drug as TFMPP, or 1-(3-Trifluoromethylphenyl) piperazine, a powerful hallucinogen. Other sources describe the drug as a combination of TFMPP and a stimulant called BZP, or N-benzylpiperazine.
Still others describe it as pure, unalloyed MDMA - the chemical moniker for the substance known as ecstasy. MDMA causes euphoria and sensory distortions, but can also produce depression, anxiety, teeth-grinding, nausea and, in rare cases, organ failure and death, according to the National Institutes of Health.
"What they call 'ecstasy' is such a wide range of crap it could be anything," said one self-described former user, a 33-year-old task force informant who declined to be identified. "Molly should not have anything else in it - it should be just MDMA."
The informant, a musician, said he first used ecstasy while living in Southern California and attending all-night raves in the high desert. He said he did not encounter molly until he moved to Northern California.
"I would say it softens, uninhibits and makes you desire physical contact," he said. "It makes you want to be embraced. You just want to be embraced."
He described molly as a bitter powder that is gray or light tan, usually coming in gelatin capsules of 0.1 grams or 0.3 grams. Prices start around $15 per capsule, and the high lasts for hours, he said.
"You have to know the right people," he said.
In November, the DEA issued an "intelligence alert" that its Western Laboratory in San Francisco had received four sets of multilayered, multicolored candylike rave pills, all containing caffeine. Three of the sets tested positive for MDMA - ecstasy - while the fourth set were "ecstasy mimic tablets" that tested positive for TFMPP and BZP.
Special Agent Casey McEnry, spokeswoman for the DEA in San Francisco, said it is "not uncommon" for the lab to confirm a drug as TFMPP/BZP, but ecstasy is still much more prevalent. In the DEA's San Francisco field division, which runs from Bakersfield to Redding, the agency confirmed 1.5 million seized pills as ecstasy from 2006-08, McEnry said.
By comparison, 187,427 pills were confirmed as TFMPP/BZP over that time period, she said.
Molly can be manufactured from common over-the-counter medications, and its side effects can include hallucinations, rapid heart rate, dehydration and even heart failure, according to Marin task force Detective Mike Brovelli.
"It can be made anywhere: bathrooms, tubs, sinks," Brovelli said.
In one recent investigation, a molly-related arrest by the task force led to a much larger discovery.
The case involves a 26-year-old man who sold suspected molly to an undercover task force detective on three occasions between Nov. 14 and 26 in Marin, along with some psychedelic mushrooms, according to court documents. This led investigators to obtain a search warrant for the man's residence in Oakland, where they found 11 pounds of processed marijuana, about $3,000 in cash and two guns, along with a shotgun and a ballistic vest belonging to the man's roommate, said Baker, the task force sergeant.
The suspect, Jacob Vahit Ergil, has pleaded not guilty and is free on $50,000 bail. A trial date is pending, and his lawyer, David Pullman, declined to comment on the allegations.
Baker said the danger with molly is that young rave drug users, accustomed to ecstasy, move on to molly without appreciating the increased potency.
"That's where you get in a lot of trouble - these kids take ecstasy, and then they get molly and it's a lot stronger," he said.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: veggie]
#9676000 - 01/25/09 02:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I lol'd. Unfortunatley it seems like they might becoming hip to things but they still have a long way to go. Sad they are getting so many informers from their cases.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: wickedscepter]
#9676013 - 01/25/09 02:14 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Molly can be manufactured from common over-the-counter medications, and its side effects can include hallucinations, rapid heart rate, dehydration and even heart failure, according to Marin task force Detective Mike Brovelli.
"It can be made anywhere: bathrooms, tubs, sinks," Brovelli said.
Even in the back of cars! Oh wait.... this isn't meth....
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: DMT_Feind]
#9676179 - 01/25/09 02:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thousands of people safely use Molly every day same with X! Knowledge of what your taking is the key.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: MendoMillion]
#9676334 - 01/25/09 03:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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The media. Wow...
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#9676424 - 01/25/09 03:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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When the Great Change comes in 2012, my ass is gonna be at the safety lands(look up Edgar casey) triping balls on cubes and then i'm gonna creat a society built around mushrooms and cannabis.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: veggie]
#9676638 - 01/25/09 03:51 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Last time I checked "molly" was PURE ecstasy, in powder form.
I wish I knew where cops got their information. Their "informant" is probably sitting in a lazy-boy laughing his ass off at all the bullshit he feeds them. At least that's what I'd be doing.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: FloydRose]
#9676742 - 01/25/09 04:08 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I srsly hope this is a joke..
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: neopet nub]
#9676769 - 01/25/09 04:14 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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if someone can make MDMA in a bathtub or sink, or trunk of a car then I would be ridiculously impressed...
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: veggie]
#9676917 - 01/25/09 04:45 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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veggie said:
Definitions of "molly" vary. In 2003, an announcement by the federal Drug Enforcement Administration defined the drug as TFMPP, or 1-(3-Trifluoromethylphenyl) piperazine, a powerful hallucinogen. Other sources describe the drug as a combination of TFMPP and a stimulant called BZP, or N-benzylpiperazine.
if u dont know the true identity of what ur after then give up yo.....what the fuck man
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#9676956 - 01/25/09 04:52 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Molly as pipes? Wow DEA, ask any college student, and your job is to get it right and you can't?
The DEA = Epic Fail.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#9677025 - 01/25/09 05:06 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, it is funny how drug user's know ample amounts more then the DEA. Considering drug user's are hobbyists where as the DEA get's paid.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#9677032 - 01/25/09 05:07 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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The war on drugs = Epic fail... or is it The war on personal freedom......or are they the same i always forget
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#9677131 - 01/25/09 05:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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The US enjoys waging wars against non-tangible enemies to instill a status quo based on moral ideology
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#9677202 - 01/25/09 05:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Molly can be manufactured from common over-the-counter medications, and its side effects can include hallucinations, rapid heart rate, dehydration and even heart failure, according to Marin task force Detective Mike Brovelli.
"It can be made anywhere: bathrooms, tubs, sinks," Brovelli said.
i fucking wish!
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: smaerd]
#9677541 - 01/25/09 06:30 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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if someone can make MDMA in a bathtub or sink, or trunk of a car then I would be ridiculously impressed...
seargent Stenanko would never check in the trucnk of your car... would he?
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: travelleler]
#9678418 - 01/25/09 08:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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What dumb fuckers hahaha..
Molly has always been MDMA and Ive NEVER heard it been called anything other then that.
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: hpi]
#9679924 - 01/26/09 12:26 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Molly was a good girl and she new the reasons why so when she went back into the bathroom she would never come outside. she was a GOOD GIRL and it felt great to be a liar she's a GOOD girl and it felt great.............woah
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Re: Marin task force sees influx of party drug 'molly' [CA] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#9684447 - 01/26/09 08:38 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this should be the news story to end all news stories. It illustrates ineptitude to the highest degree.
Do we even need to bother hearing about other drug busts or DEA warnings to tell us how people like this are for the most part, failing in life?
Best article ever!  (sarcastically)
They call them selves a Task Force! Yeah, go get em guys. So embarrassing.
They even have an "informant". I would actually be happy to be an informant, to give them a bit of truth about these mysterious things called drugs that they are so clueless about.
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