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 Alan Rockefeller
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 Wild Pig Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park 
#9636233 - 01/19/09 02:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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1/18/09
Pig Trap:
Cantharellus californicus
Agaricus albolutescens
edit: I called the park and found out that the trap is for wild pigs. That explains the corn filled bait.
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Paresthesia
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9636390 - 01/19/09 04:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I guess some chanterelles are up! I feel a bit more optomistic about my upcoming trip. I'm constantly impressed with the sheer variety of things that people seem to find out there.
We have some great spots here too! I just need to get to them when deer hunting season is over. Too many rednecks with itchy trigger fingers.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Paresthesia]
#9637685 - 01/19/09 10:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great chanterelles! I miss them where i live. They stopped growing about 3 years ago for some reason...
Actually something really interesting, I was with 3 friends last night driving through the santa monica mountain canyons around midnight we stopped at one point and in front of my car was five mountain lions fully grown. One went "deer in the head lights" and if I didnt stop at that point I wouldve had to put em in my trunk. I was always told they were solitary hunters. Ive never seen a mountain lion before. They are incredibly rare.
Was quite a head fuck since there are only a few left and we were on ecstacy...
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#9637823 - 01/19/09 11:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hah hah. Just remember, now matter how much love you feel for the mountain lion, it would tear your ass up if you got out to pet it.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Paresthesia]
#9637844 - 01/19/09 11:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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no it wouldnt, if he is a true native american nothing to worry about
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9638002 - 01/19/09 11:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mountain lions would like Crocodile Dundee... And nice Chanterelles by the way!
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: SlickWilly1762]
#9638072 - 01/19/09 11:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, mountain lions would like CureCat 
Edited by weiliiiiiii (01/19/09 12:41 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Paresthesia]
#9638259 - 01/19/09 12:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I guess some chanterelles are up!
Yea but it took a whole lot of work to get those.
My friend said that the hill we had to go down to find them was too steep and his self preservation instincts would keep him from going down there. His self preservation instincts didn't last long when I started running down the hillside at nearly full speed.
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Great chanterelles! I miss them where i live. They stopped growing about 3 years ago for some reason...
The past 3 years have been real dry compared to the season 4 years ago. When its kind of dry you have to walk a mile to find each patch even in the best hunting zones.
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Actually something really interesting, I was with 3 friends last night driving through the santa monica mountain canyons around midnight we stopped at one point and in front of my car was five mountain lions fully grown. One went "deer in the head lights" and if I didnt stop at that point I wouldve had to put em in my trunk. I was always told they were solitary hunters. Ive never seen a mountain lion before. They are incredibly rare.
It must have been a family, the kids get full sized but they are not grown up yet and they stick around for awhile.
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Hah hah. Just remember, now matter how much love you feel for the mountain lion, it would tear your ass up if you got out to pet it.
Sometimes mountain lions like to stalk and eat people but in the US they kill less than one person a year.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9639408 - 01/19/09 03:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice pictures Alan. And ya that was most likely a family of mountain lions. They were probably yearlings with their mother. They'll stick around for about two years total and then she'll chase them off unless she has another litter before then, in which case she'll chase them off sooner. They had to be brothers and/or sisters because a male will kill cubs that are not their own and sometimes they'll kill their own if prey is real scarce. For the most part, mountain lions are solitary, all the fully mature males are and sometimes the females are too. But sometimes the females will form a "pack" but will separate themselves from the pack when it comes time to have a litter.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: gandalf579]
#9639826 - 01/19/09 04:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why are they trying to trap Mountain Lions?
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Shroomeup]
#9639918 - 01/19/09 04:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know. I wonder what they do with it when they catch it.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9640079 - 01/19/09 04:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The reason they are trying to trap the mountain lions is most likely because they are a danger to the immediate community. If they do trap them, Fish and Game (or whatever the state wildlife people are called there), they'll tag them and take them somewhere more remote and release them back into the wild. If they are caught again repeatedly, they will most likely be humanely euthanized.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: gandalf579]
#9640281 - 01/19/09 05:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
gandalf579 said:
The reason they are trying to trap the mountain lions is most likely because they are a danger to the immediate community. If they do trap them, Fish and Game (or whatever the state wildlife people are called there), they'll tag them and take them somewhere more remote and release them back into the wild. If they are caught again repeatedly, they will most likely be humanely euthanized.
yeah thats pretty much why.
if they catch the same one multiple times returning to the same spot they will ixnay it.
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 Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#9640668 - 01/19/09 06:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Theyre not rare any more,mountain lions that is,young ones will pick up a kid or a jogger every once in a while,less work than ambushing and chasing down a deer,the same goes for the older cats,theyre very common alll around the L A area,theyre actually becomming as common as the coyote,the more deer around the more food to support a viable mountain lion population,theyre in the Burbs now,theyre just really smart,we have them in town in Austin,they came from Big Bend,a couple thousand miles away,only a slight exageration,a lot of Bicyclists are really nervouse,lolol,help me lance,never leave home without your Mace,Just make sure the kids got one tootheyre the easiest food source,oh and cougars are color blind,theres an old Native american story about a maiden who found a rattlesnake in the snow,she braught it in and set it by the fire and when she went to check on it it bit her in the neck,she stepped back in surprise and asked how could you do that you've killed me,and after I saved your life,well,the snake looked at her and answered,look bitch,I'm still a snake,lololol,true story,Big Kitty Big big.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Hobachi Ofunlo]
#9640833 - 01/19/09 06:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That bit about the rattlesnake is based in truth. They are somewhat like frogs in the way they handle the cold. You can put a live rattler in the deep freezer and if you don't leave it in there long enough (24 hours is usually enough to kill it), when you get them out to thaw to skin and gut it, they can "come back" and once they are warm enough, they tend to be extremely mad and are a bitch to re-catch. Imagine taking one out of the freezer and placing it on the counter in your nice and warm kitchen to thaw and going into the TV room to watch a show while it thaws, only to feel something brush your leg a half hour later. You look down and see the rattler you "thought" was dead getting ready to strike. Not a good thing! I always cut the head off, skin and gut it before I freeze them for just that reason.
As to the rarity of mountain lions, it just really depends on which part of the country you live in. Here in West Virginia the population is growing but they are still protected, as they are in most states I believe.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Hobachi Ofunlo]
#9640914 - 01/19/09 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should go back with a mask on(I'm assuming they have cameras mounted in the trees) and destroy that trap. They're as much a part of the environment as the chanterelles. I live in a remote mountain cabin in cougar country and we see them on our property all the time.
Every time they open a mountain lion hunting season or start trapping them, the deer population explodes, and then the deer either starve in the winter or they get a disease outbreak that wipes out entire herds.
I worry more about my dog than myself, but my puppy is now ten months old and has already had two lion encounters, so she's learned to be careful around them and to keep her nose working all the time. Trapping them is just plain wrong.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: RogerRabbit]
#9642091 - 01/19/09 09:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
gandalf579 said:
The reason they are trying to trap the mountain lions is most likely because they are a danger to the immediate community. If they do trap them, Fish and Game (or whatever the state wildlife people are called there), they'll tag them and take them somewhere more remote and release them back into the wild. If they are caught again repeatedly, they will most likely be humanely euthanized.
Trapping them for this reason is wrong? I'm not sure I agree with that. If they present a danger to the immediate community they need to be moved for their own safety.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9642790 - 01/19/09 10:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mountain Lions kill one person every ten years in the whole US, cars are a greater danger to the community by 2000 times.
Anyone who would trap an animal to gain that additional margin of safety needs to be reeducated.
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9642797 - 01/19/09 10:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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And if trapping them protects them?
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Re: Mountain Lion Trap in Big Basin Redwoods State Park [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9642864 - 01/19/09 10:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This was wayyyyy out in the middle of the woods. I am not convinced that mountain lions out in the middle of nowhere need that type of protection.
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