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MDMA(Pressies) addiction?
    #9569521 - 01/08/09 07:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know ecstasy isnt physically addicting, but last time i have done E was in June and almost everyday til today i would think about it and how much i miss it. I always take pressies because pure MDMA is hard to find around here, so could it be some other substance in the pressies such as meth/speed that is making me addicted? or is it because i just love the feeling so much? Pressies i get are always VERY good where all i need is 2 to be rolling hard for 4-5 hours. I dont really mind it but i have a feeling if i do them again im gunna go on a binge and thats not what i want


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9569539 - 01/08/09 07:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like MDMA to me. I remember the first time I took an MDMA roll. It was all I could think about for weeks afterwards. Something that euphoric is bound to give you an everlasting afterglow. I like your avatar of the white dove. Those were the best rolls that ever came through my area.  :xtc:


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #9569548 - 01/08/09 07:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just thinking about molly slaps a big ass smile on my face.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Shamanintraining]
    #9569620 - 01/08/09 07:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ya moll-E is def addictive
anything super fun is
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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9570040 - 01/08/09 09:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

physical addiction doesn't last nearly as long as what you describe. But like Coaster said, anything that's very enjoyable is mentally addictive.

Most people on this board aren't what you would call addicted, but quite a few of them (including myself) can be a bit obsessive about psychedelics.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: donvliet]
    #9570086 - 01/08/09 09:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i use to be addicted to tripping,
would think about it and would want to do it all da time... sux.

solution: stop thinking about it, stop wanting to be high all da time...
and embrace life as it is sober.

it's physically/mentally not wise to be high all da time,
and practically impossible


Edited by lobotomix (01/08/09 09:51 AM)


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: lobotomix]
    #9570096 - 01/08/09 09:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

its not practically impossible and for some its good 4 the mind


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9570120 - 01/08/09 09:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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RussianScholar said:
I know ecstasy isnt physically addicting, but last time i have done E was in June and almost everyday til today i would think about it and how much i miss it. I always take pressies because pure MDMA is hard to find around here, so could it be some other substance in the pressies such as meth/speed that is making me addicted? or is it because i just love the feeling so much? Pressies i get are always VERY good where all i need is 2 to be rolling hard for 4-5 hours. I dont really mind it but i have a feeling if i do them again im gunna go on a binge and thats not what i want




Ecstasy can be psychologically addictive for many people. When I was first introduced to this drug, I was rolling every weekend. Sometimes even twice a week. Maybe I'd rail half a pill before class, or go out with my gf and roll at the beach. I was making excuses to be able to roll. Rolling is an amazing escape from reality.

Although, days after my confidence would take a plunge. My reading skills(as a student), my self-esteem, my self-persecution- and my emotions were out of control!!! I then took a 6 month break, and when I started rolling again I forgot how much fun it was....I started rolling every weekend again.....

I'm currently rushing 24 units in 6 months(very difficult for me), and that is the main reason why I've stopped rolling. It's been about 5 months that I've been clean. I VERY much miss the euphoria, and always wish to roll- I have a supply in the other room, but I would be drenched in guilt if I popped a pill before my classes ended. Maybe in the summer if I still feel the desire, but hopefully I will be more obsessed with hallucinogens/dissosiatives by then. In my mind I know that I can't retain anything positive from an ecstasy trip, I've passed that threshold long ago.

Just be careful, you are abusing your brain.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Coaster]
    #9570160 - 01/08/09 10:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its not practically impossible and for some its good 4 the mind



depends what substance,
i waz thinking about doing a "hard" drug all da time...

like lsd, mush, mdma, amphetamine, coke, heroin....
if ur using them in doses to get high off everyday,

it's practically possible,
but soon or later it gets too hard on da body/mind
+ theres da financial problem



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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: lobotomix]
    #9570185 - 01/08/09 10:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

ya i was talking about herbals :happyweed:


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Coaster]
    #9570926 - 01/08/09 12:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The longest streak ive gone poppin candies was i think 8-9 days, i was so out of it for the next week it made me stop for a while. I was literally retarded and had thought process clogs like every 30 minutes.

Thanks for your input ppl, appreciate it.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: RussianScholar]
    #9570952 - 01/08/09 12:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

RussianScholar said:
The longest streak ive gone poppin candies was i think 8-9 days, i was so out of it for the next week it made me stop for a while. 



Damn. I bet.
8 or 9 days? wow.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Modizu]
    #9570984 - 01/08/09 12:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

thats quite the binge


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Coaster]
    #9571030 - 01/08/09 12:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i dont recommend it lol, it wasnt too much at a time. it was like 1-2 pops a day.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Modizu]
    #9571042 - 01/08/09 12:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Neuron to some extent... Eventually rolling everyday can lead a person to sacrifice reality, and i do not think that sacrificing reality is the primary intent of this chemical. Its therapeutic value is enormous, much to enormous for everyday indulgence.

I also used to roll, at least, a couple times a week. That is what happens when you sale these little babies.

The addiction factor comes with a multiplicity of variables.

1. Psychologically addicting
2. The amphetamine they contain is physically addicting
3. Being egocentric for a few hours is something no one likes to pass up.
4. MDMA can be extremely easy to get in some areas, as well as cheap.

I would say if you are addicted it is either one of these reasons or a combination of the four.

If you can get away from using this chemical, by all means do so. MDMA does not have the track record that the natural hallucinogens have. Proper research has not been conducted. It is possible that a side effect or long term effect has been missed, and later it could be discovered to be harmful.

If your going to use MDMA, try to do so wisely.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: AnxietyDrive]
    #9571526 - 01/08/09 02:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i have a friend when he was 16,
he popped like 8 to 12 MDMA pills a day for 3 months in a row.

he said that he started realizing it's time to quit when a big red spot appeared at the skin of his chest... he said that he thought that red spot was his liver.

they were pills with high doses (between 80 and 120 each).
he said the most pills he'd done was 24... he stayed awake for a day and a half or something.



i know it sounds too crazy, but when you build a big tolerance i think it's possible to take that many pills daily.
he is not the kind of person who would lie about it.

how he is now,
very intelligent... very active in life...
he's a computerprogrammer.

these days only does LSD and weed.
emotionally he might be a bit perma-damaged from all the drugabuse...
because he is quite materialistic, and i guess that maybe without his weed and other pleasures... he'll feel pretty bad.

but maybe that's just mental and nothing to do with past druguse,
because almost every human being has got the whole desire/fear/attachment problem.

he seems very stable and got his life under control.

he also has a perma tolerance to X,
he can still roll... but i'm not sure if the feeling is as good as it used to,
and he needs more than other people to feel it.




i wouldn't advise binging like this to anyone,
because there's people who take only a couple of pills in the weekend

and after repeating this cycle for a couple of times,
suffer for a long time because their brainchemicals are totally imbalanced by the MDMA.

maybe i'm fooling myself
but mdma/amphetamine feels more harmful to my brain than mush/acid,
although many people say that it's possible to keep using mdma/amphetamine responsably and only on special occasions without ever having a real problem.

somewhere i've read that the safest way to take mdma
is only 1 dose of 120mg max 4 times per year

i guess that adding a second dose of 70mg 2 hours after taking da first
dose to extend the roll,
may not be that much more stressful for the brain,
but healthwise, i personally wouldn't take more than 120 + 70, 4 times per year...

i never take mdma coz i prefer to use as less drugs as possible,
and when i use drugz i prefer to take shroom/lsd/ayahuasca


Edited by lobotomix (01/08/09 02:44 PM)


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: lobotomix]
    #9571534 - 01/08/09 02:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

my friend on NYE took 8 random presses he got at the rave
i asked him if he wanted any molly and he declined
i tried to tell him its far smarter
hes a moron
i was like w.e i tried :crazy:


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Coaster]
    #9571650 - 01/08/09 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A clinical diagnosis of "Substance Dependence" is done using a generic set of criteria applicable to all drugs (although interestingly, caffeine is excluded).

However there really is no such thing as a drug being "physically addictive".  Withdrawal is only one criteria used to make a diagnosis of "substance dependence".  You can have one without the other and vice versa.


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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: Coaster]
    #9571697 - 01/08/09 02:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Coaster said:
my friend on NYE took 8 random presses he got at the rave
i asked him if he wanted any molly and he declined
i tried to tell him its far smarter
hes a moron
i was like w.e i tried :crazy:




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Re: MDMA(Pressies) addiction? [Re: lobotomix]
    #9573696 - 01/08/09 08:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea that's not to uncommon in people where I'm from, pills are easier to get then weed around here.
Quite a handful of 15 year olds even deal the shit around the highschool.

I know quite a few people who would go through about 6-8 pills over the course of a school day. Really tweaky buggers... I'm assuming a greater amount of these pills were meth-bombs as well. Much to my confusion I watched a kid consume 15 pills of the same pill I had taken, and barely feel anything...meanwhile me, taking one, was fucked off me face.

I call that an addiction.... or stupidity...or something...?

I keep it to twice a year though, and I tend to only take one pill. I always have that desire to do it but seeing people so consumed by it tends to help me stay away.


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