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Mephistophelian
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Mycology Genetics

#9564308 - 01/07/09 12:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Its more of a broad ranged question...but better suited for in here. I'm looking for any books/material (books are the best since they add to the decor of ones bookshelf) in regards to mycology genetics and related advanced topics. I want material to learn more about the true life and evolution of the fungi as opposed to only cultivation, how they form, the kryons, hyphae, genes, and so forth.

To tune into the more advanced models of mycology especially more up to date ones, its harder to find it in the forum since many of you guys are very saturated with knowledge from such books already and its simply "in the know" types of discussions going on. I'm not terribly experienced but I'd sure like to learn more of the higher end of this facinating hobby.

Any recommendations or favorites?

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denger
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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: Mephistophelian]
#9564342 - 01/07/09 12:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.amazon.com/Fungal-Biology-Jim-Deacon/dp/1405130660/ref=pd_bbs_sr_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231357792&sr=8-8

This one is very good:
http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Fungal-Genetics-David-Moore/dp/0387953671/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231357917&sr=8-23

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Mephistophelian
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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: denger]
#9564996 - 01/07/09 02:50 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Many thanks Denger.

I sourced a publisher overseas that cut the cost of the book by 80%. So we'll see how it pans out, if it works well, I'll fill you in...they have a massive selection of textbook/educational books for that kind of cost cut.

Any advanced mycology books are good, not just genetics....

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Emperor Reishi
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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: Mephistophelian]
#9569332 - 01/08/09 06:51 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

well I'm sure people get tired of hearing about Paul Stamets, heheh, but his books really are an awesome foundation to boost you from novice to advanced. Here are links to online versions:

The Mushroom Cultivator:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6652468/Mushroom-Cultivator-A-Practical-Guide-to-Growing-Mushrooms-at-Home

Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms:
http://books.google.com/books?id=jH-JI7pAOjAC&dq=the+mushroom+cultivator+pdf&pg=PP1&ots=o1zFe6QxpL&source=in&sig=23-mecIG0Dyez2eayCI4-LX8MLM&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=11&ct=result

I thought I learned a lot from the first book, but I'm reading the second book now and It's very enlightening, but those books Denger suggested look great too, tell how that source pans out for those books, I would be interested in getting a copy.

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Mephistophelian
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Re: Mycology Genetics

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#9569441 - 01/08/09 07:45 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Ya, I'll definitely let you know how it pans out. PM'd ya.

:lol:

I bought both of those many many months ago. But perhaps I didn't slip into the more common sleeve...and I've become quite interested in the deep stuff even more so then the particular bits of cultivation itself but more into the science of it, especially how it lives and grows. Facinating little creatures this fungi are.

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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: Mephistophelian]
#9569842 - 01/08/09 09:46 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

what about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Genetics-Breeding-Edible-Mushrooms-Chang/dp/2881245617
it seems to be really interesting

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denger
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Re: Mycology Genetics

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#9570394 - 01/08/09 11:41 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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troncotron said:
what about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Genetics-Breeding-Edible-Mushrooms-Chang/dp/2881245617
it seems to be really interesting

That last one is a collection of independent (unrelated) articles. I did find the chapter on Flammulina interesting and useful, the rest not so much. I actually have a pdf of this book.

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#9573637 - 01/08/09 08:51 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I have not seen this book in full yet (only whatever google books showed me), but it might be worth a read if your library can get it:
http://www.amazon.com/Applied-Molecular-Genetics-Filamentous-Fungi/dp/0751400580/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230926793&sr=1-1

By the way, isn't this an advanced mycology thread? There some people there that can be of more help.

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Mephistophelian
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#9575685 - 01/09/09 06:16 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I thought of that after my second reply but thought perhaps RR would have moved it. I'll ask him to shift it over...

Found a cheap copy here $60...

https://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/subject/Filamentous%20fungi

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Re: Mycology Genetics

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#9575752 - 01/09/09 07:03 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

And its even cheaper at your local library. Mine is able to get all of these through interlibrary loan for me.

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Mephistophelian
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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: denger]
#9575799 - 01/09/09 07:18 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

*snaps fingers* why didn't I think of that. That's a great idea...

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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: Mephistophelian]
#9581687 - 01/10/09 07:15 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, the library! It isn't just a place for the homeless to use the bathroom and check email anymore! :grin:

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Mephistophelian
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Re: Mycology Genetics

[Re: Paresthesia]
#9581965 - 01/10/09 09:42 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Paresthesia said:
Yes, the library! It isn't just a place for the homeless to use the bathroom and check email anymore!

That made my morning.

On a side note, Sucklesworth Nom Nom's are Gone! :whoo:

Back to full ratings!

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