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 Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ]
#9487310 - 12/24/08 01:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Goddard might consider legalized marijuana
December 23, 2008 - East Valley Tribune
Attorney General Terry Goddard said Tuesday he might be willing to consider legalizing marijuana if a way can be found to control its distribution - and figure out who has been smoking it.
Goddard said marijuana sales make up 75 percent of the money that Mexican cartels use for other operations, including smuggling other drugs and fighting the Mexican army and police.
He said that makes fighting drug distribution here important to cut off that cash. He acknowledged those profits could be slashed if possession of marijuana were not a crime in Arizona.
But Goddard said a number of other hurdles remain before that even becomes a possibility.
Goddard's comments came following a press conference Tuesday announcing the breakup of a major ring that police said has been responsible for bringing about 400,000 pounds of marijuana into Arizona each year since 2003.
The operation has led to the indictment of 59 people and the arrests of 39 of them, some in this country legally and others who were not.
Phoenix police Lt. Vince Piano said the operation was very sophisticated, complete with specially designed heavy-duty trucks to actually let vehicles drive over the border fence.
He said this operation was one of several under contract to Mexican drug lords to transport the marijuana from the border through the Tohono O'odham Reservation all the way to Phoenix. Piano said busting this organization doesn't stop the flow of drugs, as this is one of several "transportation groups" working with the cartel. But he said it does disrupt at least part of the flow.
Arizona drug laws came up during questions about the operation of drug cartels and the violence associated with their operations, particularly in the Mexican state of Sinaloa.
"The key is, they will no longer exist when people don't buy marijuana," said Matthew Allen, special agent in charge of the office of investigations for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. "This is a market-driven economy and this is a market-driven activity."
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: veggie]
#9487331 - 12/24/08 02:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I heard today there have been 5,300 deaths in Mexico this year due to the cartels.
Here it is...
Link:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Mexico_president_will_never_negotia_12192008.html
Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Friday his government "does not and will never negotiate" with drug traffickers, and vowed to press on with a military clampdown which so far has failed to stop spiralling drug violence.
Drug-related deaths have doubled this year, to more than 5,300 according to Mexico's top prosecutor, despite the deployment of 36,000 troops across the country.
"My government does not and will never negotiate with criminal organizations," Calderon said at a ceremony with the country's Marines. "We're determined to not only confront, but to defeat enemies of Mexico with all the force of the state."
The Mexican leader, who launched the military crackdown when he took power two years ago, blamed his predecessors for the country's current woes.
"The fact of ignoring or pretending to manage crime, instead of confronting it with determination in the past, has brought about fatal consequences," Calderon said.
Drug cartels, including the powerful Juarez and Sinaloa gangs, are fighting for control of key trafficking routes into the United States across Mexico, particularly in border areas.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: Component]
#9487352 - 12/24/08 02:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's going to happen. We have SO many problems as a nation, and almost all of us are SO tired of the problems and lunacy that has pervaded the past hundred corporate driven years. Changing the marijuana law in an intelligent manner would do DO much for our country, and the word is getting out, and the voice calling for justice and good sense gets louder by the day.
Make your voices heard. Do what you can. The bottom line is, if we make our voices heard and we vote, we can change ALL of this. Soon.
Thanks for doing your part veggie (and all of you who bring articles on here) it inspires me.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: whattheheck]
#9487639 - 12/24/08 04:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Attorney General Terry Goddard said Tuesday he might be willing to consider legalizing marijuana if a way can be found to control its distribution - and figure out who has been smoking it."
Figure out who has been smoking it? wtf. I don't trust these people.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: InTheRainySeason]
#9487765 - 12/24/08 05:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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> Figure out who has been smoking it? wtf.
I assume he was speaking with respect to interstate commerce. Still, an odd statement.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: veggie]
#9488136 - 12/24/08 07:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Phoenix police Lt. Vince Piano said the operation was very sophisticated, complete with specially designed heavy-duty trucks to actually let vehicles drive over the border fence.
Wow, thats pretty intense didn't know that.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#9488194 - 12/24/08 07:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The key is, they will no longer exist when people don't buy marijuana
And pollution will stop being a problem when everyone stops breathing... 
LEGALIZE!
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: Component]
#9489009 - 12/24/08 11:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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>I heard today there have been 5,300 deaths in Mexico this year due to the cartels.<
Due to the cartels?? These deaths are a direct result of the USA policy of drug prohibition. There would not even be cartels if it were not for prohibition.
And the US continues to fuel the violence. We just released $197 million, the first part of $1.4 billion for Mexico to fight the cartels. And the cartels are funded by drug prohibition, receiving $Billions in cash and weapons from the USA.
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: veggie]
#9489234 - 12/24/08 12:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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veggie said:
And the US continues to fuel the violence. We just released $197 million, the first part of $1.4 billion for Mexico to fight the cartels. And the cartels are funded by drug prohibition, receiving $billions in cash and weapons from the USA.
That is what is so sad about this.
It is like watching a dog chase its tail
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: veggie]
#9490502 - 12/24/08 05:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
veggie said:
Goddard might consider legalized marijuana
December 23, 2008 - East Valley Tribune
Attorney General Terry Goddard said Tuesday he might be willing to consider legalizing marijuana if a way can be found to control its distribution - and figure out who has been smoking it.
Goddard said marijuana sales make up 75 percent of the money that Mexican cartels use for other operations, including smuggling other drugs and fighting the Mexican army and police.
He said that makes fighting drug distribution here important to cut off that cash. He acknowledged those profits could be slashed if possession of marijuana were not a crime in Arizona.
Well since people are not going to stop buying marijuana, nevermind the idiocy of the market driven statement, it's nice to hear an authority figure think about the benefits of taking the money out of the cartels hands by changing the laws. I hope things get so bad in Mexico that the politicians here and there have no choice but to change the laws instead of continuing to throw money and legal violence against it. 
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Re: Goddard might consider legalized marijuana [AZ] [Re: mr.bixby]
#9492461 - 12/25/08 04:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does that mean we will be able to grow it or will it be more like the distilling your own high powered booze (illegal).
I'd still grow my own anyhow, it's a great hobby and it shouldn't bother anybody or be any of their business (I don't overload the circuits and as long as the wiring is good and legal).
Drugs have a serious negative association, one that they don't deserve and one that rules how people react/live with using drugs when they don't figure out for themselves that you don't have to be an asshole if you do use them....or an asshole if you don't use them.
Glad that someone has some decent scents, a real purpose other than fear mongering; people have been so stupid/retarded about being a thug selling drugs.......I hated buying drugs and loved growing them (for so special me).
I hope the news doesn't kill him to much, God; they have some kind of trend about being a law abiding citizen likes it's the ideal way to live (appearance wise it always was).
It's the smart thing to do, legalize all plants; it's the right thing, it's been so wrong to teach people stupid ideas that organized criminals make so much money off of and make the user look awful by association.
Well, the CIA will have to live off of just their 50 billion yearly budget now; they have other drugs to make money off of.........that and wall street, really, I don't like The Company, they never gave me shit for a good deal (a bunch of thugs themselves).
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