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 robbyberto
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 Surround sound headphones 
#9445955 - 12/16/08 06:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can anyone recommend a pair? I'd like to spend around $100.00, but I'd go up to $150.00. Besides sounding good, they need to be pretty durable.
Thanks
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: robbyberto]
#9446120 - 12/16/08 07:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have the bose on ear. They can rock your dome if that what you want. I think they are $180 though, maybe on eBay you can get them cheaper. I like them very much but those are the only expensive headphones I have so I can't really compare or contrast with others. The entire cord is detachable so you would really have to mess up the actual headphones to break it. In the couple of years I had it I have gone through 2 cords (like $10 each)but the headphones still sound great. Hope this helps!
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you cant go wrong with the bose qc series.
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bose are not your best choice if you want true sound and high clarity, almost any audiophile will tell you that...at least for speakers anyways.
I have heard great things about sennheiser, but I also would never spend that much for headphones personally.
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robbyberto
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: supra]
#9446225 - 12/16/08 07:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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supra said:
bose are not your best choice if you want true sound and high clarity,
I'm not going to get Bose headphones this time. I'm replacing these Bose headphones which recently broke. The cable on one side frayed. I tried to solder it, but it still isn't working.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: robbyberto]
#9446852 - 12/16/08 09:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What's so special about "surround sound" headphones?
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9448312 - 12/17/08 01:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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> What's so special about "surround sound" headphones?
They use a DSP to calculate out the acoustics that would result from multiple surround monitors giving the illusion of depth beyond typical stereo.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9448420 - 12/17/08 02:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Normally, when listening to audio using headphones, the sound seems to originate from within your head, which is unnatural. Surround sound headphones employ technology that not only gives the listener an enveloping sound, but removes it from within listener's head and places the sound field in the front and side space around the head, which is more like listening to a regular speaker-based surround sound system.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: SheerTerror]
#9448455 - 12/17/08 02:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Normally, when listening to audio using headphones, the sound seems to originate from within your head, which is unnatural. Surround sound headphones employ technology that not only gives the listener an enveloping sound, but removes it from within listener's head and places the sound field in the front and side space around the head, which is more like listening to a regular speaker-based surround sound system.
When cutting and pasting from another source, even if you edit out parts, you really should give credit... http://hometheater.about.com/od/headphones/qt/headsurround.htm:
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Normally, when listening to audio (either music or movies) using headphones, the sound seems to originate from within your head, which is unnatural. Dolby Headphone, SRS Headphone, Yamaha Silent Cinema and Smyth Research employ technology that not only gives the listener an enveloping sound, but removes it from within listener's head and places the sound field in the front and side space around the head, which is more like listening to a regular speaker-based surround sound system.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: Seuss]
#9451005 - 12/17/08 03:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sennheisers are good  there is lots of audiophile websites see what they say. also cnet.com is always a good start
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: the man]
#9451289 - 12/17/08 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kind of sceptical about surround sound headphones for music listening, but maybe that is just cuz of the term "surround sound" which seems to be associated, in my mind, with crappy speakers with poor sound quality and crappy signal processing (mid bass sounding like crap and distorting).
For music listening does it move the soundstage in front of you like if you were listening to normal speakers? That would be the only thing I think might be nice, but I don't see why would need anything more than drivers mounted on an angle.
So do they use multiple drivers at different angles to give you different points of origin for the sounds? Just seems pretty complicated to me and hard to pull off better than headphones costing twice as much. (maybe I'm confused. Are they not trying to be capable of emulating home theatre surround sound?)
Or did what Seuss say mean all they do is give you a delay so you associate the sound coming from an angle? Wouldn't this mean you couldn't tell if the sound was in front of you or behind you? How would this be helpful for music?
(I realize I should figure this stuff out on my own, just furthering discussion- ignore if troublesome)
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: the man]
#9451439 - 12/17/08 05:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is sennheiser sold in retail? I'd like to get some headphones tomorrow.
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Oh and I would go to the gym, but I get to into it, and have hurt myself more then once; I'm healthier by not working out because I'm too extreme of a person.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: johnm214]
#9451713 - 12/17/08 05:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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> Or did what Seuss say mean all they do is give you a delay so you associate the sound coming from an angle?
It is more than a delay, at least for the higher quality ones. They take multiple channel inputs (5.1 for example) and calculate out the resultant waveforms at a persons ears within a virtual room with proper placement of multiple monitors. Wave supposition rather than just delays.
The downside is added distortion from the additional digital processing. Depending upon the quality of your ears, the quality of your gear, and the quality of your recording, this may or may not be a big deal. (Another downside is cost.)
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: Seuss]
#9453117 - 12/17/08 09:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't want any processing done inside my headphones. Their only function is to reproduce what the amplifier gives them. There isn't nearly enough room inside a headphone for all that circuitry and a decent amplifier, and it adds weight.
That shit belongs in the head unit or in a dedicated box if anywhere, not on my head.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9454232 - 12/18/08 01:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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> That shit belongs in the head unit or in a dedicated box if anywhere
Many (most?) of them use a standalone box to do the processing for the reasons you outlined.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: Seuss]
#9455553 - 12/18/08 10:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Surround sound headphones" is a misnomer then, since you can use it with any headphones. It all sounds really gimmicky, like most shit from Bose (even though Prof. Bose himself is a cool guy).
When I was building headphone amps a while back, some of the schematics had an analog crossfeed circuit which bleeds a certain amount of each channel into the other ear to simulate room bleed. I always removed that part of the circuit but according to the designers and other users of these amps, that's enough to eliminate the "wire between your ears" sound stage. And that's without any DSP or AD conversion.
I've heard some really amazing binaural recordings...
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9456098 - 12/18/08 12:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm curious what type of amps you were building. Discrete fets, opamps, etc... I got into ultralow distortion amp design for a while, but eventually lost interest (too damn expensive). The last design I was playing with (monitor amp) was a fully balanced H bridge (using linear mosfets), including balanced power for each leg of the H. I never did build the amp, but it was a pretty design. The signal path was very clean with no discrete components, trying to reduce johnson noise. Servo bias on the fets with minimal feedback (feedback for each stage, but no global feedback). Three stages of amplification overall. Designed to put out 100W RMS while running the mosfets fairly cool.
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: robbyberto]
#9456525 - 12/18/08 01:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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robbyberto said:
Is sennheiser sold in retail? I'd like to get some headphones tomorrow.
they are, if you have trouble try samash or guitarceenter. prolly cost you more than other places tho
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Re: Surround sound headphones [Re: tak]
#9458035 - 12/18/08 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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def try at a store and order online. usually like 60% cheaper.
well shouldnt say usually but you get my point. MSRP are pretty high and you can get them for much muchcheaper.
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