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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280616 - 11/20/08 05:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com

^^ That is your source :rofl2:





and the problem with that source?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280622 - 11/20/08 05:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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lol im not a troll i just like to get people to question there rigid learned thinking

Heres my source i found one.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/2780525.stm

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He founded al-Qaeda in 1979, originally as a guesthouse in Peshawar for Arab fighters.





If you think im a troll why don't you PM all the people that have rated me and ask them that question.  I just know people in this country are TAUGHT to think one way about something and NOT to question it.




Were you even born or around when President Clinton sent missiles against Al Qaeda facilities in Sudan and Afghanistan?

Do you remember the Twin embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya?

The 93 WTC bombing? The Bali bombing? The Madrid Train Bombings?

You've watched way too much Zeitgeist, try thinking for yourself sometime.


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Why some rice farmers -- some rice eaters ran him out of Korea. Yes, they ran him out of Korea. Rice eaters with nothing but gym shoes, and a rifle, and a bowl of rice took him and his tanks and his napalm, and all that other action he's supposed to have and ran him across the Yalu. Why? 'Cause the day that he can win on the ground has passed.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #9280676 - 11/20/08 05:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You all have persuaded me to think AQ is real, and that some of the things i have brought up in this thread that i said were false.  Is personally insulting me going to make you feel any better?:shrug:


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280686 - 11/20/08 05:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Somehow I don't believe you're being sincere.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Crasher]
    #9280696 - 11/20/08 05:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:

I'm not going to plant my lips on your ass, but think openly enough to see flaws in my logic.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280726 - 11/20/08 05:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't think logic had a lot to do with some of your earlier posts.

But ass-kisses were not my intention.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Crasher]
    #9280737 - 11/20/08 05:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

*puts his lipstick away*


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Crasher]
    #9280752 - 11/20/08 05:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Logic yes they were.  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that.  What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is.  Many of you people despise me, but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.  I might its a pretty good assertion that Al-Qaeda exists although i don't know for a fact, cuz i have never met anyone from that group.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280785 - 11/20/08 05:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Logic yes they were.  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that.  What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is.  Many of you people despise me, but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.  I might its a pretty good assertion that Al-Qaeda exists although i don't know for a fact, cuz i have never met anyone from that group.




Your presupposition that we all learned Al Qaeda existed from fallacious sources was a bit presumptuous. I've had direct contact with self-proclaimed members on several occasions, and there are other members who have lived in areas where their existence is not considered fodder for conspiracy theorists to debate.

If you never accept someone else's first or second-hand account of truth, how do you accept so much radical ideology from school?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: teefizzle]
    #9280814 - 11/20/08 05:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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*puts his lipstick away*





not so fast, there's still asses to be kissed


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280822 - 11/20/08 05:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Logic yes they were.  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that.  What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is.  Many of you people despise me, but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.  I might its a pretty good assertion that Al-Qaeda exists although i don't know for a fact, cuz i have never met anyone from that group.


you ever been to Saudi Arabia?  prob not, so how are you sure that it exists and isn't a conspiracy to make you buy Ethiopian oil?  absurd isn't it?  al qaeda exists unfortunately (depending on what side of gov funding you're on)


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280857 - 11/20/08 05:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

American Embassy Bombings in Kenya and Tanzania: Over 200 dead, estimated 4000 injured, due to Truck Bombing by radical islamists, financed by Al Qaeda.






Luxor Attacks, 1997, Egyptian Islamic Jihad, organized by Zawahiri, later no. 2 in Al Qaeda. Over 60 were killed in this brutal attack. Later EIJ also tried assassinating Hosni Mubarak In Addis Ababa, Zawahiri is also partly responsible for the death of Anwar Sadat.






Madrid Train Bombings, 2003: 191 are killed and over 2000 injured. By Al Qaeda inspired group. Al Qaeda is a decentralized, open source group, anyone wishing to pull off a attack may be completely autonomous from larger network.



Bali Bombings: Over 200 dead when a man wearing a suicide vest blew himself up in a crowded nightclub, Jemaah Islamiya,A Al Qaeda backed group claims responsibility.





1993 WTC bombing, the first attempt to bring the towers down, 6 people were killed, police tracked the perpetrators by tracing the Ryder van to a co-conspirator who claimed the van stolen was arrested when he tried to get his deposit back, they then tracked down Ramzi Yousef in his apartment, whose uncle is Khalid Shiek Mohammad, the mastermind of 9/11. Inside the apartment literature was found on bomb making and in arabic was scrawled a organization called the Afghan Veterans Service, later known now as Al Qaeda.




Need any more examples to convince you?


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Why some rice farmers -- some rice eaters ran him out of Korea. Yes, they ran him out of Korea. Rice eaters with nothing but gym shoes, and a rifle, and a bowl of rice took him and his tanks and his napalm, and all that other action he's supposed to have and ran him across the Yalu. Why? 'Cause the day that he can win on the ground has passed.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #9280869 - 11/20/08 05:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Logic yes they were.  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that.  What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is.





no... all you did was make yourself look foolish and uninformed, obviously those of us that discussed issues with you were already informed, you simply tossed in conjecture


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  but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.





whom did you educate, certainly wasnt me since I have been
reading on many subjects for many years in addition to having
first hand experience, in your education within this thread
have you discovered that electric vehicles were the end
all/be all answer to environmental problems?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #9280908 - 11/20/08 05:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

i'm not denying the existence of al qaeda, but to be fair, we are not only fighting al qaeda, we are fighting the majority of the population who are apposed to the US presence over there. if we were not there, many wouldn't give two shits about america, they'd be farming their crops.

read entheogenicpeace's last post.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Crasher]
    #9280925 - 11/20/08 05:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Logic yes they were.  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that.  What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is.  Many of you people despise me, but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.  I might its a pretty good assertion that Al-Qaeda exists although i don't know for a fact, cuz i have never met anyone from that group.




Your presupposition that we all learned Al Qaeda existed from fallacious sources was a bit presumptuous. I've had direct contact with self-proclaimed members on several occasions, and there are other members who have lived in areas where their existence is not considered fodder for conspiracy theorists to debate.

If you never accept someone else's first or second-hand account of truth, how do you accept so much radical ideology from school?




He doesnt realize the Al Qaeda is a open source group anyhow, they are completely decentralized, who ever wants to join can join. Whoever wants to strap a bomb to his chest or plant a IED is encouraged to do so, Al Qaeda is just a name, its PR thats all, to be networked all over the world, willing to strike at any second for the good of the global sunni caliphate.

Cognitive, I suggest you start reading some literatures, your ignorance is dangerous, how many more attacks should people suffer before folks realize Al Qaeda actually exists...


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The white man can never win another war on the ground. His days of war, victory, his reign -- his days of ground victory are over. Can I prove it? Yes. Take all the action that's going on this earth right now that he's involved in -- tell me where he's winning. Nowhere.
Why some rice farmers -- some rice eaters ran him out of Korea. Yes, they ran him out of Korea. Rice eaters with nothing but gym shoes, and a rifle, and a bowl of rice took him and his tanks and his napalm, and all that other action he's supposed to have and ran him across the Yalu. Why? 'Cause the day that he can win on the ground has passed.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #9280952 - 11/20/08 05:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Cognitive, I suggest you start reading some literatures, your ignorance is dangerous




QFT!


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: niteowl]
    #9280981 - 11/20/08 06:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nothing like a full page of :snap:

No snap smiley?


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: Crasher]
    #9280990 - 11/20/08 06:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:whip:


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: niteowl]
    #9281346 - 11/20/08 06:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that. 



How do you gain knowledge?  Do you draw knowledge out of the ether?  Is it implanted in your mind my Jesus himself?  As far as I know there is only one person here who has had direct contact with al-Qaeda, and it's not you.

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What i did is i got you all researching and finding out for your self through credible research what the truth is



What you did is make us forcefeed you the truth, something which you have clearly put much effort into ignoring.  Anyone with a basic grasp of current events understands that al-Qaeda was born out of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and has metastasized into a group that violently supports extreme Wahhab Sunni Islam.  The fact that others provided links that you demanded because you were too lazy to think outside the constructs of your ideology doesn't mean you actually accomplished anything beyond learning something in the most cumbersome method possible. 

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Many of you people despise me, but all i have done from this thread is genuinely educate myself and others, bringing up possible scenarios.



No one here has expressed the same level of contempt for the other posters here as you did when you said that, "all Americans are afraid of the truth," or remarking about, "how stupid American citizens are," when you weren't intellectually integritous enough to understand that al-Qaeda is real. 

If I am going to despise you for anything (not that I do, necessarily) it would be for the fact that you have managed to totally disrespect AJ4U by annihilating his thread with the pouring on of your self-righteousness and pomposity all over this thread, and not because you supposedly enlightened me with your unsubstantial claims, or plans for the future of humanity.  Why are you totally incapable of letting someone get advice if it contradicts your sensitive cultural mores?  Not everyone shares your worldview, and when someone holds and shares a view that contradicts your own, that doesn't give you an invitation to shit all over their conversation.


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Re: Anyone else serve in the US Army? [Re: thedefone]
    #9281423 - 11/20/08 07:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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  The only reason many of you believe Al-Qaeda existed is because you learned that, someone told you that. 



How do you gain knowledge?  Do you draw knowledge out of the ether?  Is it implanted in your mind my Jesus himself?




aliens... from the other end

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No one here has expressed the same level of contempt for the other posters here as you

If I am going to despise you for anything (not that I do, necessarily) it would be for the fact that you have managed to totally disrespect AJ4U by annihilating his thread with the pouring on of your self-righteousness and pomposity all over this thread, and not because you supposedly enlightened me with your unsubstantial claims, or plans for the future of humanity.  Why are you totally incapable of letting someone get advice if it contradicts your sensitive cultural mores?  Not everyone shares your worldview, and when someone holds and shares a view that contradicts your own, that doesn't give you an invitation to shit all over their conversation.





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