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 Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? 
#9258224 - 11/17/08 12:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So i have heard just recently, but have no references, that homogenized milk is bad for you because of the process. Supposedly it breaks down the fat cells so tiny and small that it passes through your liver, to then be stored in your body because it doesn't know how to process it properly.
I guess this process is done to avoid the fat separating from the rest of the milk in the carton while its on the shelfs.
Is this all true? If so does anyone have any references to support it? I love milk!
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: pscyanescens]
#9258238 - 11/17/08 12:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fuck it. Who cares? Maybe it's a little bit bad for you. Seriously, if people can smoke a pack of cigarettes a day for 40 years and only lose 10 years off their lives, then what's a glass of homogenized milk going to do? You'll lose a day of your life.
Ehh if you can't find a reference - that means no evidence to back it up - then don't worry about it. Where'd you hear it anyway?
The explanation doesn't make much sense to me. Do you mean "fat micelles"?
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pscyanescens
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Plasmid]
#9258264 - 11/17/08 12:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not sure. I heard it from my girlfriend who heard it from her friends mom. Neither are really that credible in this case.
But basically it's not loosing days off my life that i am concerned with it is keeping those unwanted pounds off and staying fit and healthy. This is the reason i stopped drinking about 7 months ago. And i haven't really lost that much weight and i was wondering if its because i am drinking more milk now. As you know i love milk but alcohol and milk don't really mix well. 
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: pscyanescens]
#9258305 - 11/17/08 01:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Back in junior high we drank "fire milk". It was vodka and milk, and it fucking sucked.
I find homo milk a little too thick. I don't drink regular milk, just soy milk (I think it tastes better, alright?!), but when I did it was 1%.
Anything that fatty has to be somewhat bad for you.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: pscyanescens]
#9258345 - 11/17/08 01:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol i love milk and all dairy, and have been ingesting it almost daily (2% or whole milk) since i was born basically.
i know i have a fast metabolism already, but i'm as skinny as a rail.
i think that if you stay active, you'll have nothing to worry about (if it is true).
and staying active is good for you anyway  
here's some info about milk relating to weight gain:
http://www.milksucks.com/fat.asp
i love dairy too much to give it up 
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Brugman]
#9258373 - 11/17/08 01:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well i heard that the calcium you receive from the milk is still good for you. And i also heard that soy milk doesn't really do anything good for you. No vitamins or minerals in any significant proportions if any at all, but then again that is just what i was told by my girlfriend as well.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Brugman]
#9258379 - 11/17/08 01:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Brugman said:
Back in junior high we drank "fire milk". It was vodka and milk, and it fucking sucked.
I find homo milk a little too thick. I don't drink regular milk, just soy milk (I think it tastes better, alright?!), but when I did it was 1%.
Anything that fatty has to be somewhat bad for you.
haha you said homo milk
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Brugman]
#9258393 - 11/17/08 01:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Brugman said:
I find homo milk a little too thick.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Oregon]
#9258771 - 11/17/08 06:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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pretty much yeah, it makes it so it doesnt seperate. personally i like the non-homo. i love shaking and mixing in the fat, the milk taste so much better.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: thedudenj]
#9258795 - 11/17/08 06:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wikipedia said:
Homogenized milk may be more digestible than unhomogenized milk.[19]
Concerns exist about the health effects of consuming homogenized milk. Work by Kurt A. Oster, M.D. in the 1960s through the 1980s suggested a link between homogenized milk and arterosclerosis, due to the release of bovine xanthine oxidase (BXO) from the milk fat globular membrane (MFGM) during homogenization. While Oster's work has been widely criticized, it is apparent that homogenization introduces changes the MFGM and the exposure of its proteins, and the effects of these changes on food safety have not been thoroughly investigated.[19]
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Irdamage]
#9258827 - 11/17/08 07:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm trying rice milk this week (whatever the fuck that is  ).. Dairy seems to fuck with my insides, so I'm going to see what happens when I remove it from my diet  .
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Cepheus]
#9258953 - 11/17/08 08:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: pscyanescens]
#9259072 - 11/17/08 08:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know of no evidence that supports this. I know the process denatures enzymes but your body has plenty of enzymes capable of breaking down dairy fat. There is no reason I can think of for this to be true.
Plus you want your milk to be exposed to the high heat of pasteurization, it is how rBGH is denatured, or supposedly so, though I've seen studies showing that very little rBGH is broken down by normal pasteurization procedures.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Balaam]
#9259124 - 11/17/08 08:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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i try to drink homogenized milk as little as possible. actually all processed milk. when i cant find raw milk at one of my health food stores, ill substitute with goat milk from the supermarket, its naturally homogenized, which is quite different. but the worst part of all about commercial milk is the pasteurization, it kills a good amounl of the beneficial enzymes and nutrients in the milk.
i try to limit my milk intake to half a gallon or less a week, as dairy promotes mucous production and thickening. i really enjoy almond milk, but its too fucking expensive to have regularly.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Cepheus]
#9259165 - 11/17/08 09:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cepheus said:
I'm trying rice milk this week (whatever the fuck that is ).. Dairy seems to fuck with my insides, so I'm going to see what happens when I remove it from my diet .
i like rice milk. try making it yourself, much better than the storebought variety.
http://www.recipezaar.com/D-I-Y-Rice-Milk-51109
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9259189 - 11/17/08 09:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Raw milk is the best by far, all pasteurization and homogenization destroy nutrients and enzymes, and as you said turns it into a processed form foreign to the body. Raw food is the best.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9259196 - 11/17/08 09:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
when i cant find raw milk at one of my health food stores, ill substitute with goat milk
I cant buy raw milk legally but I know a few people that have
milking cows, having my own goats is a benefit, it doesnt get
any fresher than right off the tit... of course you can
always try the peta suggestion, go human milk...
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9259203 - 11/17/08 09:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I must say this rice milk ain't bad ... I've tried soya before and that stuff is raw.
What's a cheese cloth? It would be so much more economically viable if I made my own rice milk  ..
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9259218 - 11/17/08 09:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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leftysurprise said:
when i cant find raw milk at one of my health food stores, ill substitute with goat milk
I cant buy raw milk legally but I know a few people that have
milking cows, having my own goats is a benefit, it doesnt get
any fresher than right off the tit... of course you can
always try the peta suggestion, go human milk...
you can buy it legally. but its for "pet consumption" only.  since the FDA is a bunch of douchebags and wont allow people to make the decision for themselves to buy raw milk, this is our loophole around that.
i cant wait until i have my own cows and goats.
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Re: Homogenized milk is bad for you? Your liver can't process the fat? [Re: Cepheus]
#9259238 - 11/17/08 09:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Cepheus said:
I must say this rice milk ain't bad ... I've tried soya before and that stuff is raw.
What's a cheese cloth? It would be so much more economically viable if I made my own rice milk ..
yeah commercial ricemilk TASES fine, but lik eyou said, its expensive, AND it doesnt have much as far as nutrients. homemade is always better. with anything. 
cheesecloth is a type of fabric used alot in food making, i just use normal cotton washcloths or thin cotton towels. but be sure to buy some specifically for food and nothing else.
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