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 deCypher
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 Angels and demons from a magickal perspective...
#9177030 - 11/03/08 10:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is this Universe merely just a simulation? Are angels and demons simply players of this simulation who choose to inhabit our bodies like virtual avatars to play their games?
Is there a purpose beyond merely just living and dying? Are we being played by forces beyond our control?
Are we merely simulacra in the machine, haunted by ghosts that manipulate our subconscious motivations? Is there truly no free will, only the illusion of such?
I ask this only because of extremely unusual experiences that have happened recently when combining entheogens with magickal invocations--experiences that have shattered my preconceptions of what reality is.
If your rational sensibilities are offended by this post, please keep an open mind.
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 Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9177481 - 11/03/08 11:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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In a experience of my own.. i realized that "magick" as you call it..Or any form of presentation of ones ability, if one is not absolutely aware of its origin and consequences, should not use it.
Because whatever your intent may be, without sufficient knowledge it ends up being reflected in a bad way.
Now for my opinion on the notion that seams to have been troubling your mind.
There are Two types of entities ,beings.. word it your own way..
One type.. oriented towards service to others.
Second type.. orented towards self-service.
Those who are the helping kind, will not play you, inhabit your body or anything else for that matter, cause it would be infringing on your free will . This is something they dont do, they musnt.. they dont even get the idea for something like that unless they evaluate your request for such a thing as undistorted by the current human comprehension.
On the other hand , with self-serving entities it is quite possible, actually it happens all the time.
They target individuals, who are .. individuals..
Just like them..
Those who desire power , those who fear them .. simply those that cannot see the greater truth because they are still recognizing themselves as "singularities".
They sometimes notice a distortion among a person who is even oriented towards helping others , and then present themselves to you as "angels" , like you said.
They are great tricksters.
It is a path many take, and many have taken..
The law of one says : In the law of one their are no mistakes.
It isnt the wrong way.. just the long way.
If you fear being manipulated, then do not attempt to manipulate yourself.Even if it is a grain of salt.
Im not sure if that makes much sense... but if it is your free will to request an elaboration from my side , i will do so.
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: jivJaN]
#9178064 - 11/03/08 02:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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why do you ask these questions?
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deCypher
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: jivJaN]
#9178065 - 11/03/08 02:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think neither of these paths is necessarily wrong--on the one hand, it's true that other people and the Universe exist apart from our own mind (thus providing impetus towards behaving in a manner consistent with compassion, service towards others, and respect towards everyone else), but on the other, it's also true that everything we can ever know of the Universe is in our mind: we are the Singularity you speak of.
It's just that the latter option is far more tempting than the first... power is quite the compelling motivation. Rather than recognize that we are all one, I would rather recognize that I am everybody, and by gratifying my own desires I am changing all there is. I would be interested in any further elaborations though.
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: b0red5tiff]
#9178076 - 11/03/08 02:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said:
why do you ask these questions?
Because I want answers?
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9178087 - 11/03/08 02:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
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b0red5tiff said:
why do you ask these questions?
Because I want answers?
you can give an answer to them by yourself then, can't you?
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deCypher
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: b0red5tiff]
#9178270 - 11/03/08 02:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sure, but wouldn't you concur it's interesting knowing what other people think too?
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9178722 - 11/03/08 04:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
Sure, but wouldn't you concur it's interesting knowing what other people think too?
It is...but it's also a pretty well known precept that "silence is king" when it comes to the occult. ( not to keep secrets, btw.)
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deCypher
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: fazdazzle]
#9178788 - 11/03/08 04:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You secretive bastards. 
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 Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9179994 - 11/03/08 08:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I could tell ya~,  but then they would have to kill me.... 
The crazy shyt~ that happens sometimes that are beyond explanation sure are fun mind phucks to contemplate....
And I am not talking about seeing stuff out of the corners of your eyes every once in a while....
The frustrating part is trying to convince yourself that the experience you really had was not real because it doesn't fit in "normal reality"....
IE, if you can't make it happen again, therefore it didn't happen....
You ultimately have to make your own mind up (or not)....
I had my ideas and views turned upside down a few times,
and it made it very difficult to not be "open" to other possibilities that I had previously written off as B.S....
Doesn't mean that I believe everything (the skeptic believer), but, "What is NOT possible".....?
We don't know everything that IS possible.... 
As it seems, the harder you look and the deeper you delve, the more you will find/experience....
And that is when the people you talk to about it start thinking that there is something "wrong" with you.... 
Enjoy the ride.... 
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9180609 - 11/03/08 10:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Angels and demons are a modern oversimplification, it's not all black and white except on very high planes.
There are microcosmic and macrocosmic Daemons.
Some masonic parks and buildings are 'portals' for city Daemons or 'principalities' these Daemons supposedly feed upon the etheric emotional energies of humans discharged at concerts, churches and sports stadiums. Many cities have churches and stadiums built on ley lines that lead directly to these 'parks'.
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9180644 - 11/03/08 10:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
Sure, but wouldn't you concur it's interesting knowing what other people think too?
actually no, that would be a needles distraction & a waste of time in this business, mostly.
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9180898 - 11/03/08 11:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
I think neither of these paths is necessarily wrong--on the one hand, it's true that other people and the Universe exist apart from our own mind (thus providing impetus towards behaving in a manner consistent with compassion, service towards others, and respect towards everyone else), but on the other, it's also true that everything we can ever know of the Universe is in our mind: we are the Singularity you speak of.
It's just that the latter option is far more tempting than the first... power is quite the compelling motivation. Rather than recognize that we are all one, I would rather recognize that I am everybody, and by gratifying my own desires I am changing all there is. I would be interested in any further elaborations though.
Imagine all the cells in your body.
Give them a reality.
Then give them a choice.
Give them nutrients,vibrate on them with good thoughts.Give them rest.Give them all of what you ,as a being composed of these cells ,would need to be perfectly healthy.
They will be happy.. So to speak. (Paradise)
Do the opposite and they will not be content.
They will feel mistreated.You have taken away.. what rightfully belongs to them.
What keeps them healthy and alive.
So.. It just so happens that this one little cell decides hes had enough.
And says.. i see the bigger picture.But i dont like the way its not all up to me.
So im going to do this on my own !
Im going to become immortal.. and free myself of this game that is being played upon me.
Whos with me ?
Some join .. some dont.
Now lets say.. this rebelious cell , was in your lungs.
It was very unsatisfied with the fact that you have destroyed his natural habitat with smoke.
It was not a very hard task persuading the other lung cells for they have also witnessed this unjust strike they have received from their "god".
This my friend .. is lung cancer.
And these events.. only get bigger and bigger.
And smaller and smaller.
Under no possible circumstances will the cells of this body heal, unless they realize that there distinctive differentiating from one another is not a benefit , for when this cancer spreads, and spreads, and spreads.. soon enough you will have so many cells believing one thing, that if you dont believe the same .. They will call you crazy.
And even though you know its them who are crazy, you still play by their rules.
It got bigger.. This my friend is planetary cancer.
The planet needs to decide.. which side it will join.Just Like a cell.
(This is a situation our planet is undergoing)....
Our entire universe if filled with these cancerous planets.Spreading the wrong word , until you have an entire cancerous galaxy.These galaxy do the same , and in the end the entire universe may become cancerous.
Well.. it got small again..
Unless all the cells realize that the bodies death will be there own .. this seperation will spread until this is precisely what happens to them.Death. Because they wanted out.
Here is where the level of awareness is not that much of an issue.
Like me.. and you..
Both knowing the same.. only choosing different paths.
You cannot live without the rest of us.
We cannot live without you.
None of us.. will ever be, without every other particle.. in every other particle.
This is why , entities oriented toward service to others, will not inhabit your body.
They will not infringe on your free will for that.. is what the cancer does.
Promises you a faster way out.. immortality... POWER.
And in the end.. if you are compelled by it.. you serve nothing more than destruction of something bigger we are all part of.
Perhaps this is why the "Powerful" ones try to obtain "balance" on the planet , universe.. etc.Because if you didnt have me you wouldnt exist.
But without you, i can work just fine.. even better than now.
And by this i dont mean you as you.. Only what you represent if you are at all certain this is what you want.
I think this scalar reality is something we should all be aware of.
So hypothetically.. Our universe is maybe an atom in a bigger cell.
Do we despair? Do we give our self less significance ?
I say NO.
Because it isnt much different as it goes bigger.. It just gets.. Bigger.
Thats why .. there is an infinite ammount of me.. and you..
They are just bigger.. and smaller..
Now.. to conclude my elaboration ..
It really is.. all about teamwork.
And if we all dont love and help each other , no matter how "big" we are..
All together.. we collapse.
So.. re-think what you would rather recognize, because when you do recognize the infinity it would be a terrible waste of time thinking you can matter , outside of the body.
If you are not a part of it.. You kill it.. Sooner or later..
And there is no justice.. we must accept this also.
With every cigarette you smoke , you throw shadows on galaxies
With every angry frustration you make universes expand and disappear
With every time you laugh , and every time you make someone else laugh and happy ..You create more than you ever could with a billion times more of what you crave for friend.
And this is the entire point.
This is what you have to understand for a lifetime.
If you do not..
You gotta do it again.
Look at it this way..
You can serve yourself.. and when you reach what you wish, and gratify all of your desires you could possibly have as a being of any form imaginable.. Thats when your journey ends.
If you serve others.. you inevitably help the greater cause .. and then from a cell ,being capable of understanding this.. You might get promoted.
Hm.. Looks like i didnt really "conclude" as fast as i thought i would.
Anyway.. in our terms right now.
If me, or you , or anyone else had cancer.
We could cure ourselves.. with knowing greater knowledge and this healing would be instantaneous.
We.. The people on this planet as a single organism.. suffers from cancer.
And the only way we can cure ourselves from it .. is if we all understand what it is.And say no to it.. until it leaves us alone.
Then when it cant deceive not even one more person.. It will realize the illusion of power it was given, collapse to its knees and join the rest of us. INSTANTANEOUSLY .
We will be healed.
So..
What are you really changing my friend ?
And.. what am i changing ?
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Is it not almost intrusive how we all know each other so good
We are all the same possibility contemplating the effect of our cause.
Under the same direct affect of the laws we must recognize, in order to construe an effect that will be a cause of its own.
This is where we go circular.This is where we go on through eternity.
This is where.. we want to go.
RIGHT NOW.
I have now realized.. a much better and BIGGER elaboration on this matter must be a thread of its own.
I will call it.. PRE-SCHOOL consciousness.
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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 Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9181138 - 11/04/08 03:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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All is one.
Some are just on different paths.
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9181143 - 11/04/08 03:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
It's just that the latter option is far more tempting than the first... power is quite the compelling motivation. Rather than recognize that we are all one, I would rather recognize that I am everybody, and by gratifying my own desires I am changing all there is. I would be interested in any further elaborations though.
If that is what you choose then it is your choice. Such is the nature of free will.
All is one =/= I am everyone? Two sides of the same coin, just different perspectives.
There is certainly honor to be found in loving and caring for oneself. We are the Gods of our own reality after all. We must respect and honor ourselves.
The line is drawn when you would extend your will to impose upon the free will of others. To cause suffering in others for your pleasure.
In this regard there are essentially two roles, those centered in Fear and those in Love.
To love others is not to disregard yourself. But to love only yourself is to disregard others.
I would say that all paths eventually lead to the same point. Some are just much more direct routes.
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: Shroomism]
#9181254 - 11/04/08 05:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would say that all paths eventually lead to the same point. Some are just much more direct routes.
Indeed, all paths lead to infinity. And at this point we have a kind of privilege to be able to choose by our own free will which path will it be...
Anyway, with law of free will, there is also the law of confusion... it is in fact what are we doing right now. Presenting you information from a different perspective, so to speak... maybe forcing you to think, analyse, judge etc. And so are those "magickal beings" in their own free will, either trying to manipulate you or to help you in a sense..
The point is you have to do analysis for your self... to probe deep in your mind and spirit and finally make decision... will you belive in these beings of higher planes, and if so.. do you think if they are here or there to cause fear/manipulation or love/light...
So what it will be... what is the best path to infinity.. nobody can tell you that, beside your self...
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deCypher
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: Shroomism]
#9181391 - 11/04/08 06:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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jivJaN, I like your style. I've compared good/evil to healthy/cancerous cells in the past before--good stuff, and there are some definite overtones of Lucifer's rebellion being hinted at with the single cancerous cell attempting to rebel against the body as a whole. Although it seems like a futile battle (as you hint at, the growth of the cancer only invariably kills the body that feeds the cancer; a self-defeating prophecy), I find my sympathies lie more with the tumor. Doomed battles just have that sense of majestic pride about them; a sense of knowing that one's future has been utterly determined and yet striving to change it regardless. Who knows--perhaps destiny is not as set in stone as we'd like to believe.
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Middleman said:
There are microcosmic and macrocosmic Daemons.
Interesting distinction... are you implying that some Daemons only have an existence within one's mind, and others have an existence apart from it?
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In this regard there are essentially two roles, those centered in Fear and those in Love.
Shades of Donnie Darko much? I'd disagree that loving yourself over others is rooted in fear; can you explain this?
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: deCypher]
#9181912 - 11/04/08 09:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The tumor you speak of is the balance your kind wishes to preserve..
If you keep some of us united , that allows you to continue..
As long as the "body" as a whole isnt directed in one path ,you are in the clear.
You may call it majestic pride..
I will call it just another distortion..
For the current human level of understanding i can see how one would find his purpose to be a self-destructive one..
It is all the movies , all the books, all the stories you have heard , which are all products of some form of human.
These stories constructed in the way they are , IMO present exactly one of peoples main distortions.
We all wish to be in a story.Throughout our recent history, due to its lack of experience...
people have been lead to experience through this imaginary place we connect ourselves with when we look at the pc monitor, tv(god forbid) or when we read a book or play a video game.
Well... this is just insufficient.
The only thing that could suggest pride , or honor in what you and your peers are doing is misconception within our seekin of the truth.
The way i see it.. when you come to the end of your path.. You will realize the illusion of power and its purpose. As you can right now.. but choose not to.
Maybe when you do realize it... you start over.And you have to go through.. every little insignificant and important , intentional or unintentional harm you have caused ,do to your previous distortion.
This is the free will , and to tell you the truth.. its there.. so we wouldnt get bored.
You.. and your kind..
All... just dont get it..
You serve as a reference point to me and my kind.
If it was not for you.. i would not have a very big obstacle to jump over.
And when i jump over it .. i go .. and you stay.. as an obstacle that is getting jumped over.
Over and over again.
Now.. imagine this.
You are the ABSOLUTE, ultimate GOD of all the atoms,molecules,cells,tissue,organ,muscle,bone.. in your BODY.
And if they dont believe it .. you are the one that dies.And you are them.They .. are you.
All ... die.
What a valiant quest to pursue..
Glorious as a heroin addict.A representative of the self-destructive nature , a primitive species will relate with..
Destroying .. the beautiful..
It is a trick.
You are much more of a unknowing and playable object by finding these lies to be your truths..
As all people bind with each other.. and are one.
You will become one with the cancer you are allowing to take you over.
And then.. Your reach is lessened.
You may only lie and deceive those who dont know.Who dont feel..
It is IMO a egoistic response , to fear and refuse the facts and truths the infinite creator has to offer.
I will make you smile.. and that will make me smile.
That way.. we both smile.
What self-serving beings miss to learn, is this..
On your journey.. In your rebellion.. You are striving for the same good and beautiful things existence has to offer.
You are rebellious because you felt uncared for..
Unloved.. unimportant as a drop of water in a big blue sea..
And you want it back.. You want to feel the love of the entire sea.. Remember you belong to it.Then you can feel the other sees.. and oceans.. and lakes .. and finaly all the water in the world.
The aqua would not let you see the other seas.. if it thought you dont acknowledge your own.
What you need to do is just.. forgive.Because this is what you will do eventually.
Or.. the more you get separated from the creator.. The more you will loose the one thing that makes you part of him. Your soul.
The same one you have right now..
The same soul that lead you through some beautiful.. remarkable psychedelic experiences.
The experiences that have made our psychonautic cause a special one.
The thing that has made YOU a special one.. is what you are trying to detach from.
If you have the wit to see it , prevent it.
And when the times comes.. you will thank me.
And i .. will thank you.
I sincerely apologize if this response , has in any way been seen as uncalled for ,
if this service in its form.. was unrequested.
But was it ?
You would not be here my friend... if you didnt want to hear.. what i have to say.
That is.. exactly why you wrote this thread , and exactly why I am responding.
Imagine this little insignificant moment in the course of your life being empowered.. By YOU and ME together.
We are making it very important right now.
RIGHT NOW.
What say you ?
I would argue that flying alone can be boring..
Tell me i have wronged with what i have said.. And i will thank you for pointing out my mistake.
I will learn..
But before that happens ,if the event is due,
.. Will you learn ?
If yes.. then you are not, what you have claimed to be..
And i am glad to have shown you this.
Actually.. i think youve known it all along.
You just.. forgot.
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: Angels and demons from a magickal perspective... [Re: jivJaN]
#9183202 - 11/04/08 02:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When people see some things as beautiful,
other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good,
other things become bad.
The Tao doesn't take sides;
it gives birth to both good and evil.
The Master doesn't take sides;
she welcomes both saints and sinners.
Throw away holiness and wisdom,
and people will be a hundred times happier.
Throw away morality and justice,
and people will do the right thing.
What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man's job?
Your response was not at all uncalled for--this is the sort of discussion I was looking for, in point of fact. But allow me to make a few rebuttals.
Good and evil define each other; without the one the other cannot exist. Without a healthy body there can be no cancer; without cancer there is no way to appreciate health. It's an endless cycle: out of corruption, chaos, and carnage rises virtue, order, and a longing for harmony; out of altruism, self-sacrifice, and good rises evil, opportunism, and power-seekers scavenging the reapings of the humble. Any attempt to swing the balance in favor of one side or the other is futile, as this goes against the natural way of things and is like trying to fight the natural flow of a river down a stream: dams may work temporarily but erosion will occur no matter what.
You call the majestic pride of the self-serving beings a distortion; I call the humble service towards others and belief in karma a perverse illusion. You seek refuge in dissolution of the ego and expansion of your self-identity to everyone around you; this only allows the powerful and the competitive to willingly trod over you in pursuit of their own goals. Why turn the other cheek to your aggressor when you can strike his first? Why refrain from violent actions in an effort to preserve karma when the carrot-on-the-stick reward cannot be seen from this side of the afterlife?
Nature, at its root, is a violent and primal thing. Animals kill other animals for survival, to compete for a mate, or even for fun (the example of a cat playing with a mouse, for instance.) To say that we are somehow beyond this is to advocate a fundamental separation from creation and the Tao in all its manifestations. Is killing an ant wrong? How about killing a cow for dinner? How about killing an attacker who threatens the survival of your family? The line is not so clear cut as your kind wishes it to be; but instead of being a slippery slope down into perdition it's more of a smooth glide into liberation. Why should we worry over whether our actions impinge on others? It should be the responsibility of each individual to survive and preserve their own desires; in the game of life only the strong and the cunning prevail. Non-egocentric idealism is a nice ideal, but it's only that: the only reason why you're alive right now is because someone has let you live. You say that flying alone can be boring; I say that flying alone is superior to shuffling on the ground with company.
I am not rebellious because I feel uncared for--far from it. Instead, I am rebellious because I refuse to let the more powerful manipulate me into staying down-trodden and content with the status quo simply because the creator organism as a whole deems it to be so. Rather than lose my individuality in a hopeless sea of conformity to some imaginary good, I would far rather pursue my own desires and longing to rise above; regardless of whether or not this is considered good or evil. Likewise to how you claim that my "distortions" are a product of human media, I find it ironic how you cannot cast out the mote in your own eye first: any idea of not causing harm, or adhering to a goal that most would consider to be good and non self-destructive, first comes from the ideas that have been ingrained in your head since birth by parental influences, society, cultural mores, religion, and even a naive sense of spirituality. Question your beliefs; question authority; question why it is that some things are considered to be good by some and evil by others. Only when you transcend the pallid limitations given to you by others in an effort to keep you under control will you realize that all the time your search for an outward creator was deluded: for true divinity can only be found within.
Only when you forget you are human will you remember you are a god. And the truth shall set you free.
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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Edited by deCypher (11/04/08 02:36 PM)
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