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phaseflux
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Post dunking smell
#9176093 - 11/03/08 04:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I usually dunk my cakes in the fridge because I always thought it would slow down any potential bacteria contamination, but upon reading a post by RR saying that he doesn't recommend doing that anymore, this time I dunked my cakes at normal room temperature (after harvesting the first flush).
Anyways, this time I only dunked 12 hours and then I opened up the jar and started to take the cakes out. I sniffed some of the cakes and then I started to freak out a bit. To me the smell seemed not so mushroomy, and I thought I could even smell a faint sour kind of smell (though it could have just been my paranoia causing me to think that). But anyways there was a smell, and it didn't smell like the normal mushroomy smell.
Anyways I didn't have much time to think about this because I had to leave my place, so I just popped them into the FC. Throughout the rest of the day I was thinking about my cakes and I had thoughts like: "Fuck, they're probably all fucked up, i should have dunked them in the fridge". So when I finally came back home 6 hours later I was prepared to go into the FC and throw them all out. Before i did that however, I took another sniff of the cakes, and they smelled strongly of mushrooms again, and that faint sour smell that I thought was there was gone.
Maybe cakes always smell different when they are soaking wet? Maybe I never noticed this before since my cakes were always cold after dunking on prior grows? I don't know.
So my question for you guys is, what do your cakes smell like right after you pull them out of the water after a dunk? Do yours smell strongly mushroomy? Or do they have a noticeably different smell to you??
I'm thinking my cakes were fine all along and maybe they just smell fairly different when soaking wet. I could be wrong tho, maybe there was a bacterial contamination, but if that were the case, shouldn't they still have that different smell, instead of reverting back to the strong mushroom odor?
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: phaseflux]
#9176102 - 11/03/08 04:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Never noticed a smell. Maybe it's your tap water?
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: phaseflux]
#9176104 - 11/03/08 04:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its better to take them out the jar, and wash them under the tap before dunking in a pot of cold water. You need a little water pressure to fully rehydrate your cakes. this is achieved by keeping them submerged by weighting them down in the pot. After the dunk rinse them under the tap again to wash any bacteria off that may be on the surface.
Your probably just worrying too much.
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: dead]
#9176105 - 11/03/08 04:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
dead said: Never noticed a smell. Maybe it's your tap water?
Actually i used bottled water, but I'm thinking of starting to use tap water instead because maybe the chlorine in the water will help prevent bacterial contaminations?
and yes veda, I know the routine, and this wasn't after taking them out of the jars anyways. Anyways my question isn't about dunking technique, but specifically about what your guy's cakes smell like RIGHT after you pull them out of the water, Do they smell mushroomy to you?
Edited by phaseflux (11/03/08 04:41 AM)
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: phaseflux]
#9176111 - 11/03/08 04:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your tap water is drinkable straight out of the tap. Its fine to use for dunking. The trace amounts of chlorine dont do any harm to mycelium.
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OH i see where the confusion was, when I said I took them out of the jar, i meant the dunking jar. I have this really huge jar that I use for dunking, it holds a couple gallons haha, But yeah just to clarify this is post first flush. not dunking after colonization. Not that it matters, I'm looking specifically for information on smell.
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: phaseflux]
#9176140 - 11/03/08 05:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try spring water if your going to dunk your cakes for that long.
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: 420th_St]
#9407472 - 12/10/08 03:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry for resurrecting a dead thread but i didn't know if my simple question deserved a new thread, and this one is relatively recent.'
After dunking my cakes for 24 hours in cold tap water stored in my pressure cooker at room temp, the cakes have taken on a slight smell, at best we compared it to latex paint? Are there any contams that smell similar to latex paint that i should be worried about? The cakes were a bit more blue looking than prior to being dunked, although that is likely due to the fact we had to break the jars to get these ones out. The cakes smelled of the normal nice smelling mushroom scent before being dunked.
I rinsed the cakes off under tap water and rolled them with vermiculite, they are now in the fruiting chamber. Just wondering if anyone sees any potential warning signs due to the strange smell or any of the steps i have taken. Thanks for any input.
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: ggpr]
#9407641 - 12/10/08 03:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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you should be ok just keep an eye on them. Theres nothing anyone can really tell you except wait it out.
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: tripchip]
#9407864 - 12/10/08 04:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's always a small amount of bacteria that grows in the dunk water, thus the smell. That's why we recommend a good rinse after the dunk. RR
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Re: Post dunking smell [Re: ggpr]
#9410765 - 12/11/08 01:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the interest and quick response, it's good to know that is normal.
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