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 DannyGlick
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One of the things that caught my eye was the relative lack of excitement when the real Psilocybe caerulipes was actually found.
I was excited man.Still am.One of your pics is my desktop,for motivational purposes.
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 Re: After the blue foots  [Re: wisp]
#9110951 - 10/21/08 07:08 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, well seeing as how the "scientific community" has to rely on Shroomerites for their mushrooms, I tend to give them some credit. 
Do you know how many new actives were "discovered" by us? I don't have a number, but it isn't one or two. We need Guzman et al, they need us as well.
Thanks Danny. I know I was excited, still am. I am going looking one last time and then giving up for the season.
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wisp
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I'm not denying that. All I'm saying is that Wiki is not a resource that the scientific community relies on. I almost guarantee you that you won't find Guzman et. al. looking up Wiki for information while writing up a paper or monograph.
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weiliiiiiii
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I dont trust wiki at all, ive read several things on there are that need to be updated.
The weilii section is not accurate it says that there is a small fruiting in spring and then list the season from September through mid November.
Its from May to the first or second week in December, it never mentions the massive flushes that come up in the summer time.
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wisp
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9111011 - 10/21/08 07:17 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks weiliiiiiiii.;)
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 Alan Rockefeller
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: wisp]
#9111039 - 10/21/08 07:21 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I almost guarantee you that you won't find Guzman et. al. looking up Wiki for information while writing up a paper or monograph.
Guzman does his own research for the monograph but he has commented on some of the wiki articles I have written on the Mexican species.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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See? Nyah! 
All in good fun. 
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wisp
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Excellent! I'm not discrediting your articles directly, they're probably some of the better ones out there (references included helps), but Wiki still isn't peer-reviewed as a whole, which means that the information found within is not necessarily correct.
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: wisp]
#9111156 - 10/21/08 07:41 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Peer review has advantages and disadvantages, Trip. One of the disadvantages is having lesser minds examine your work. The other is the prevailing scientific paradigm that stifles creative research. It's a useful tool, but no tool is perfect.
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wisp
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Agreed. Still, it is the accepted tool of guaranteeing information because it is capable of verifying it as true or not. Open source databases like Wiki fall prey to misinformation too easily. I'm nt saying disregard it entirely, I'm just saying take the information you glean from there with a pinch of salt. It's like the news - not all bullshit, but not all fact either.
Edit: maybe the news wasn't a good example, most of it probably is total bullshit. Think of specific non-commercial news programs for a better example.
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: wisp]
#9111211 - 10/21/08 07:51 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with tripsis on this one, sum of the info on there is great because it coming from people who know what there doing like Alan.
But some of its not coming from good sources so i guess it just depends. 
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: wisp]
#9111673 - 10/21/08 09:00 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ovoids do come up in the fall. I found three small pins in my lovely location X two weeks ago. If I go back ill take some pictures.
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: Agent 47]
#9151020 - 10/28/08 11:24 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am in NE Ohio right nerx to the lake and the PA line and i was wondering if you found any actives around here any were near here????.............All I can find are A.muscaria var.guessowii
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: DannyGlick]
#9151046 - 10/28/08 11:28 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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HAHAHAHA I have a puking pumpkin too.......lol
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I'm not going to give exact locations as that may lead to some spots I know. Not to be a dick. But if your looking for the blue foots or the ovoids. it's pretty much the same habitat. Check high humidity micro climates. River streams. Think jewelweed, and itchweed (stinging nettle).
Spring is the best time for ovoids but finds have been recorded in the fall.
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: Agent 47]
#9151080 - 10/28/08 11:33 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: After the blue foots [Re: Agent 47]
#9151313 - 10/29/08 12:15 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I know lots of places were there are jewelweed but no were near a stream but in drainage trenches along the roads.......is this a good place to start looking? I remember what jewelweed looks like because i mistook it for skullcap weed...lol................I just seen the Ron Paul Revolution (lovin It) Anybody that supports Ron Paul has a brain no matter how much of it they use
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HerbBaker
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hey if you don't like the Wiki articles then fix them..As you may know the Wiki articles are works in progress and we are still learning what the ovoid season is and it has now been updated...i wouldn't call it piss poor to be cautious about entering info into the wiki..
just because there is a small fruiting earlier or later in the season does not extend the main season.(you dont include the dry season)
Most of the wiki articles on psilocybin mushrooms are an accurate source of info, they are not perfect, but much better than this thread would seem to show. Some of them are actually the best descriptions you'll find, because we have the luxury of perpetually updating the info and combining all the known info together in one place to create the best description possible.
Edited by HerbBaker (10/29/08 11:35 AM)
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