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 acromonium
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 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA)
#9062367 - 10/11/08 09:08 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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The alleged drug dealer shot to death by police in front of a Chuck E. Cheese's restaurant on Monday has been identified as a 15-year-old boy.
Francisco Diaz Perez was killed by Clayton County Police Department narcotics officers during a set-up drug buy.
He was allegedly distributing methamphetamine out of a BMW in the Upper Riverdale Road parking lot of the pizza place that caters to children, when police attempted to arrest him, and he allegedly tried to drive away.
It was Perez's 15th birthday, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
The GBI released the teen's identity on Friday, at the request of the Clayton News Daily.
Police did not initially know Perez's identity. When they attempted to arrest him, they only knew a nickname given to them by a confidential informant, who had been arrested and "flipped" that morning. The confidential informant estimated Perez's age at 22, according to Clayton County Police Chief Jeff Turner.
Perez didn't look or act like a teen, Turner said. When he was killed, there was $3,000 of "crystal meth" in the car he was driving, and he weighed 203 pounds.
"He didn't look like he was 15 and, according to the agents, when he came into the shopping center, his driving ability wasn't that of a 15-year-old," the police chief said.
Perez was driving a BMW 525, when he was killed. He didn't have a driver's license in his pockets, according to police, and there was initially some confusion about the car registration. On Friday, GBI Spokesman John Bankhead said Perez didn't have an ID because he couldn't legally drive, yet. The car was purchased by his father.
Perez was identified when his parents came forward and filed a missing persons report, according to Turner. They said it was "not unusual for him" to disappear for several days, but they were worried that he might be dead.
The police chief said the Perez family is in the country illegally, and lived in one of the mobile home parks on Tara Boulevard. Police had not had any prior contact with Perez, but his brother, they said, is listed in their computers as an affiliate of the Forest Park Locos gang.
"Our hearts go out to the family," Turner said Friday. "It's unfortunate when anyone dies, and especially one so young. But bottom line, this does not change the facts of this case.
"This suspect still showed up to sell two ounces of crystal meth. He still rammed into police cars. He still attacked police officers. Those are the facts of the case," Turner said, "and that's something that doesn't change because of the age. A 15-year-old can still kill you just as quick, if not, in some cases, quicker than a 35-year-old."
The three officers involved in the shooting are currently on paid, administrative leave, pending the department's internal investigation and a psychological review.
The shooting is also being investigated by the GBI, which is standard policy in Clayton County. When the GBI investigation is completed, the case will be turned over to the Clayton County District Attorney's office.
Clayton News Daily
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062376 - 10/11/08 09:11 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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slangin mefff at Chuckie Cheese 
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Boom]
#9062403 - 10/11/08 09:24 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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I hope this haunts those fucking pigs for the rest of their lives.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: NobodyImportant]
#9062422 - 10/11/08 09:31 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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This kid was dealing meth at a Chuck E Cheese. I have no doubt that he was scum- the police were most likely in the clear this time.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: forbiddendonut]
#9062455 - 10/11/08 09:50 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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the article says they set up the buy
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: forbiddendonut]
#9062458 - 10/11/08 09:50 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Scum or not. Meth or not. That CHILD is a product and victim of the drug war.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062476 - 10/11/08 09:56 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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he would disappear for days at a time? I dont care if they are illegal immigrants, that is just some shitty parenting. He just barely turned 15, and he could drive like a pro? You know, maybe illegals would get more respect if they wouldnt have this kind of shit happening all the time.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062491 - 10/11/08 10:02 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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acromonium said:
Scum or not. Meth or not. That CHILD is a product and victim of the drug war.
My thoughts exactly.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: mastacheefa]
#9062506 - 10/11/08 10:07 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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He was an illegal immigrant selling 3g's of meth out of a BMW in front of a chukkee cheese. Fuck that "CHILD" who thought he was old enough to drive around without a license and distribute narcotics without also being aware of the police.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Irdamage]
#9062521 - 10/11/08 10:15 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Irdamage said:
He was an illegal immigrant selling 3g's of meth out of a BMW in front of a chukkee cheese. Fuck that "CHILD" who thought he was old enough to drive around without a license and distribute narcotics without also being aware of the police.
So your cool with the fact this kid is dead, at 15, over possessing a chemical. I wonder if people really want the drug war stopped sometimes. If this was fox news I would expect ignorant comments like this, but at the shroomery? WTF
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062531 - 10/11/08 10:20 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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acromonium said:
So your cool with the fact this kid is dead, at 15, over possessing a chemical. I wonder if people really want the drug war stopped sometimes. If this was fox news I would expect ignorant comments like this, but at the shroomery? WTF
Yes I am. To me that is one less moron in this world. I'm sure we all have our share of mishaps and tough situations at 15, but this "kid" decided he was old enough to drive around in his parents luxury car selling extremely potent drugs to most likely other "kids".
I think he knew all of the risks involved with what he was doing. His poor decision making skills cost him his life. So why would I be upset?
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Irdamage]
#9062555 - 10/11/08 10:31 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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allegedly tried to drive away.
Does not constitute opening fire at anyone, meth or not.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Irdamage]
#9062564 - 10/11/08 10:35 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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wow so he didn't even have a gun!?
That's the more fucked up part of this.
So he rammed a couple of cop cars and that warrants death!?
2 ounces of crystal meth is a lot. If he was dealing that kind of shit he must have had some kind an idea of the risks. Dealing out the window of a car has got to be the stupidest thing anyone could do. Still though the cops should have done their homework more. sound like they 'jumped the gun' so to speak if they only just got info from an informant that morning. the headline should have been "Premature bust leads to Child's death".
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062719 - 10/11/08 11:29 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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acromonium said:
Scum or not. Meth or not. That CHILD is a product and victim of the drug war.
Victim? The kid was driving a BMW, sounds like he profitted from the drug war. Drug war or not, people need to cut the stupid shit out and they won't be put in these situations.
What about all the victims of meth and the families of that meth addict, they're victims as well. More so than this 15 year old slangin meth at Chuck E Cheeses out of a BMW.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: bloodsheen]
#9062749 - 10/11/08 11:41 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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bloodsheen said:
he would disappear for days at a time? I dont care if they are illegal immigrants, that is just some shitty parenting. He just barely turned 15, and he could drive like a pro? You know, maybe illegals would get more respect if they wouldnt have this kind of shit happening all the time.
racist ass. just like all niggers wouldn't get such a bad name if they weren't all crack addicted, whores and criminals?
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: tokingnome]
#9062759 - 10/11/08 11:43 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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tokingnome said:
Victim? The kid was driving a BMW, sounds like he profitted from the drug war.
lost a bmw (that his illegal dad was legally sold?) and lost his life in a police shoot-out... yep, BIG PROFITS!
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Irdamage]
#9062774 - 10/11/08 11:46 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Irdamage said:
Yes I am. To me that is one less moron in this world. I'm sure we all have our share of mishaps and tough situations at 15, but this "kid" decided he was old enough to drive around in his parents luxury car selling extremely potent drugs to most likely other "kids".
I think he knew all of the risks involved with what he was doing. His poor decision making skills cost him his life. So why would I be upset?
thank you for your efforts on global humanization of all people and world peace. you should just be a cop so you can help further killings of other morons. then you could be happy all the time.
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doesn't mean we all see the same
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: PreyToGod]
#9062776 - 10/11/08 11:47 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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This shooting is the same as this one OVER WEED. The point of the post is the police are trigger happy and abuse their power.
EDIT googled up another murder
Edited by acromonium (10/11/08 11:49 AM)
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: acromonium]
#9062807 - 10/11/08 11:57 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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allegedly tried to drive away.
Does not constitute opening fire at anyone, meth or not.
The way these things work is that the undercover police drive unmarked vehicles in such a way to box you in.
He probably hit the gas and smashed through them.
The war on drugs does an awful job of protecting the children.
Also people should be allowed to sell meth.
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Re: 15 year old shot by police over meth (Clayton, GA) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#9062812 - 10/11/08 11:59 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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So did he even directly threaten the life of the police officers? If not, there is NO excuse for shooting at him. They could've just as easily chased him down and handcuffed him, but I guess these days shooting people is just quicker and easier. I thought it was illegal for police to shoot someone if they weren't threatening them?
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