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 Icelander
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 The Universe asks you to be...
#9059375 - 10/10/08 03:00 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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What?
Does it?
Or is it us that's asking and demanding?
Is there really all this right and wrong in the Universe?
Or can you just be who you are?
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
Edited by Icelander (10/10/08 03:09 PM)
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deimya
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9059479 - 10/10/08 03:21 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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The brain fills the universe. What does it see ? What does it ask ? One thing it does, though, is doing ! doing !
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9059555 - 10/10/08 03:36 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
Or can you just be who you are?
Could I be anything else?
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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 TheAxis
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: blewmeanie]
#9059639 - 10/10/08 03:58 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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the universe doesnt ask us to do anything, its the humans that set the standards and rules. Earth doesnt make laws.
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When you make your piece with authority, you become authority
Jim Morrison
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blewmeanie
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: TheAxis]
#9059662 - 10/10/08 04:03 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Gee golly, and here I thought that we were just as much a part of "the universe" as anything else.
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: TheAxis]
#9059663 - 10/10/08 04:03 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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I think if the universe asked you to be something, you would know it.
Other than that, you're just being yourself, whether is delusional, heroic, lazy, or just plain apathetic.
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"I don't want to fuck with anybody's head here," Hawking told the assembled scientists via his voice-simulation device, "but if time goes sideways as well as forward, there might be, like, other versions of this reality, where, say, the Roman Empire is still in charge and stuff."
"By the way," Hawking added, "ever think about what'd happen if you, say, went back in time and accidentally killed your own younger self? Man, that shit would be so fucked up."
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9059677 - 10/10/08 04:08 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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"There is no such thing as good and bad in an absolute sense. There is only the good and bad - the harm in terms of happiness or suffering - that our thoughts and actions do to ourselves or to others."
--Matthieu Ricard
"There is nothing either good nor bad, but thinking makes it so."
--William Shakespeare
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up and down
and in the end, it's all just round and round.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: blewmeanie]
#9060142 - 10/10/08 05:48 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
blewmeanie said:
Quote:
Icelander said:
Or can you just be who you are?
Could I be anything else?
I should have said "or can you accept just who you are"
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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Icelander
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Quote:
BrainChemistry said:
I think if the universe asked you to be something, you would know it.
Other than that, you're just being yourself, whether is delusional, heroic, lazy, or just plain apathetic.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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blewmeanie
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9060203 - 10/10/08 06:02 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
Quote:
blewmeanie said:
Quote:
Icelander said:
Or can you just be who you are?
Could I be anything else?
I should have said "or can you accept just who you are"
Hmmmmmm, thats a tough one. I don't think it's possible, I'd say the only thing you can do is give up on trying to be anything. Though I really dont have anything tangible to base that on; I may be wrong.
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: blewmeanie]
#9060229 - 10/10/08 06:11 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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My reason for this thread is to explore how often we think we need to be any certain way so we will be acceptable to life. But really it's all in the head.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
embrace death in all the ways it comes no matter how soft or hard. cruel ,tragic,weak,light, gentle, ect how ever. thats life
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blewmeanie
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9060263 - 10/10/08 06:20 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
My reason for this thread is to explore how often we think we need to be any certain way so we will be acceptable to life. But really it's all in the head.
I guess acceptable to whom is key.
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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9061122 - 10/10/08 10:29 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Hehe, there are for sure some (natural) rules how to not 'shorten' one's physical span of life 
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Though lovers be lost love shall not;
And death shall have no dominion
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9061288 - 10/10/08 11:23 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
What?
Does it?
Or is it us that's asking and demanding?
Is there really all this right and wrong in the Universe?
Or can you just be who you are?
i think its very hands off. all it asks you to do is to contribute morally and show your resistance against immoral acts. so yes there is right and wrong, the universe is God's simulator. with him there is just purity, here we experience both sides to learn, not to sound religious. There is a certain creativity that drives the universe. thats the missing x factor in why these works of nature are so incredibly intellectually designed. You can be who you are, cause and effect here will change your perspective and personality, i would argue here we aren't our true selves, we are in a very open and incomplete/impermanent form. This doesn't damn us to some suffering life, but leaves us susceptible to failure.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9061322 - 10/10/08 11:39 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
My reason for this thread is to explore how often we think we need to be any certain way so we will be acceptable to life. But really it's all in the head.
its hard to say, i believe we must be moral, we cant know if every little immoral thing we do is issued back against us (karma-like), but i think it would be immoral saying god cant keep track of every little thing or saying he doesnt, limiting its power or assuming loopholes in your behaviors judgment, would obviously immoral
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Voido]
#9061895 - 10/11/08 03:25 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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How can anyone figure out who they are? What is identity worth?
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: dirtydirt]
#9061966 - 10/11/08 04:22 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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The universe is perfect without thought. Development, then consists in overcoming thought - instinct - impulse - fear - doubt, things that surrender the mind. All we have to do is find ourselves and stay there, the rest comes through this.
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we must strive against all ill-formed resistance to attain the chalice of a higher spiritual awakening
There's nothing there.
"Dreams: at the bottom of them lies the merciless onslaught of reality."
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9062335 - 10/11/08 08:58 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
My reason for this thread is to explore how often we think we need to be any certain way so we will be acceptable to life. But really it's all in the head.
Luckily the delusion of absolute certainty is allowed to us only within the bounds of the universe's relativity.
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Know your self.
Know your substance.
Know your source.
Stop knowing what you are and realize what you could be.
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Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9062358 - 10/11/08 09:05 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Morality is man made.
It is, indeed, all in our head.
Of course then there are the 'laws' of nature which can kill us or keep us alive. I think the real question is 'is morality a survival instinct or mass insanity'?
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 Re: The Universe asks you to be... [Re: Icelander]
#9062438 - 10/11/08 09:40 AM (1 month, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
The Universe asks you to be...
What 'you' are..
[To be.]
[To be able to be.]
[Et cetera..]
Edited by Gomp (10/11/08 10:20 AM)
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