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 veggie
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 Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA]
#9023411 - 10/03/08 12:15 PM (2 months, 10 hours ago) |
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Man says stuffy nose did him in
October 3, 2008 - globegazette.com
MASON CITY — Gary Schinagel has suffered from chronic nasal congestion from the time he was a youngster.
When he was a child growing up in Sheffield his family doctor told him, “Gary, this is something you’ll be dealing with all your life.”
Little did he know.
Last Wednesday, Schinagel, 47, a senior investment associate at Principal Financial Group in Mason City, was arrested for the illegal purchase of pseudoephedrine.
He routinely buys a generic brand of medicine to deal with his nasal condition and to help alleviate sinus headaches that are often a part of his condition.
Pseudoephedrine is a nasal decongestant found in many cold and sinus medications, but it also can be used illegally as one of the ingredients to make the drug methamphetamine. For that reason an Iowa law limits the amount of pseudoephedrine that a person can purchase in a 24-hour period or over the course of a month.
Schinagel isn’t sure which law he broke. What he is sure of is that on Wednesday, his niece called him and told him his name was in a story she read on the Globe Gazette Web site.
The story said he was one of the suspects still at large after a police pseudoephedrine roundup of violators.
He went to the sheriff’s office thinking he would clear up what was surely a mixup. Instead he was arrested, put in a holding room and told he needed $1,000 bail to get out.
“It is a sinking feeling to be placed under arrest,” said Schinagel. “I’m not a stick-in-the-mud but I’ve tried all my life to abide by the law and not cross any lines I shouldn’t cross.
“I’ve tried all my life to avoid situations like I find myself in now. And I still don’t know which line I crossed,” he said.
Schinagel, who has lived in Mason City since 2000, still banks in Sheffield. He called the bank and told them he needed to withdraw $1,000 and that a friend would come by to pick it up.
“It was embarrassing,” he said. “The woman at the bank recognized my voice. I sang in the choir with her in Sheffield.”
She arranged to have the money ready and Schinagel arranged to have a friend pick it up and bring it to the sheriff’s office.
At the county jail, he went through a routine he never thought would be a part of his life. “I had to empty my pockets, take off my shoes, have my mug shot taken and my fingerprints.
“I will say the jailers were professional and treated me well,” he said.
His initial court appearance is Thursday.
“I can’t say that I’m not angry or bitter. I guess you could say I’m at the point where I have mixed feelings about it. I’m numb. That’s the best way to describe it,” he said.
“Hopefully this will all be cleared up. I have a security investment license — so having a criminal record would be an issue, although everyone at Principal has been great about this,” he said.
Schinagel, whose previous brushes with the police involve two speeding tickets in the past 30 years, said he has no problem with the intent of the new pseudoephedrine law.
“Laws are made because there are some bad people out there and it’s too bad that sometimes innocent victims get caught up in it,” he said.
“I understand the law — but I will say there are some quirks in it.”
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 bloodsheen
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: veggie]
#9023424 - 10/03/08 12:21 PM (2 months, 10 hours ago) |
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Idk if this article is supposed to be here because its pointing out an unfair law, or if its just here b/c its related to drugs. However, either way, its not like the cops had much of a choice,im pretty sure this guy is going to get acquitted, so I dont see the problem here. Just an innocent victim of a fair law, it happens sometimes
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: bloodsheen]
#9023491 - 10/03/08 12:43 PM (2 months, 10 hours ago) |
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I disagree. Cops do have a choice. Also, this shows that the Drug Wars zero tolerance policy throws common sense out the window. And the persecution of sick people is expanding from Cancer, AIDS, and MS patients to people with common colds.
Plus these anti cold medicine laws are silly and do not work. In every state in which these laws have been enacted, while mom & pop trailer labs have decreased, the availability of meth has increased dramatically, the quality has gone up, and the price has fallen. Major meth superlabs have been created in Mexico to pick up the slack and millions of dollars channeled to growing drug cartels.
Prohibition in any form does not work and exacerbates the problems it created.
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: veggie]
#9023598 - 10/03/08 01:11 PM (2 months, 9 hours ago) |
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: veggie]
#9023605 - 10/03/08 01:13 PM (2 months, 9 hours ago) |
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"Plus these anti cold medicine laws are silly and do not work. In every state in which these laws have been enacted, while mom & pop trailer labs have decreased, the availality of meth has inreased dramatically, the quality has gone up, and the price has fallen."
so true.
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: veggie]
#9023769 - 10/03/08 01:49 PM (2 months, 9 hours ago) |
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Quote:
veggie said:
Plus these anti cold medicine laws are silly and do not work. In every state in which these laws have been enacted, while mom & pop trailer labs have decreased, the availability of meth has increased dramatically, the quality has gone up, and the price has fallen. Major meth superlabs have been created in Mexico to pick up the slack and millions of dollars channeled to growing drug cartels.
Prohibition in any form does not work and exacerbates the problems it created.
I agree with you completely re: prohibition. However, strictly speaking, if these anti-pseudoephedrine laws were enacted to decrease the ease of setting up small meth lab operations in the States, then by your own confession they have succeeded. Overall though, you're right, they've likely just made the problem worse by forcing production into bordering countries where the money will more likely go towards criminal activities.
On a side note, I've read in the DEA's Microgram where a group of people got caught making a "road trip" from state to state to purchase a large amount of pseudoephedrine while avoiding purchase limitations. So there are still workarounds to the law as it stands, unless they implement some kind of nationwide pseudoephedrine purchase database that is updated frequently - which probably wouldn't work anyway.
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: bloodsheen]
#9024458 - 10/03/08 04:11 PM (2 months, 6 hours ago) |
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bloodsheen said:
im pretty sure this guy is going to get acquitted, so I dont see the problem here. Just an innocent victim of a fair law, it happens sometimes
Yes, his PRIVATE attorney will have the case dismissed as there is no mens rea here unless there is something missing from the story.
This innocent victim will have a METHAMPHETAMINE precursor chemical charge on his record for some time now, until he PAYS out of his pocket to get the charge sealed or expunged on top of his defense attorney fee's, no big deal right, he was arrested and jailed when he used an OTC medication legally, he just purchased more than 7.5 grams within a 30 day period or 3.6 grams within a 24 hour period, but he had no intent to manufacture methamphetamine or transfer the OTC medication to a person with intent to manufacture.
Let me get this straight, you find no fault in an innocent persons name being published in a news media as wanted by police for the purchase of an ingredient used in the manufacture of methamphetamine, the same innocent person being arrested and jailed, and the victim having to pay bail, around $10,000 for a private attorney, $10,000 to get the charge expunged or sealed, you find no wrong here?
Edited by Chemy (10/03/08 05:13 PM)
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: veggie]
#9024625 - 10/03/08 04:50 PM (2 months, 6 hours ago) |
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: travelleler]
#9024677 - 10/03/08 04:59 PM (2 months, 6 hours ago) |
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dam i feel so badly for that guy
i would be so fucking pissed if i were him
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: Chemy]
#9024845 - 10/03/08 05:31 PM (2 months, 5 hours ago) |
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Yes, his PRIVATE attorney will have the case dismissed as there is no mens rea here unless there is something missing from the story.
This innocent victim will have a METHAMPHETAMINE precursor chemical charge on his record for some time now, until he PAYS out of his pocket to get the charge sealed or expunged on top of his defense attorney fee's, no big deal right, he was arrested and jailed when he used an OTC medication legally, he just purchased more than 7.5 grams within a 30 day period or 3.6 grams within a 24 hour period, but he had no intent to manufacture methamphetamine or transfer the OTC medication to a person with intent to manufacture.
Let me get this straight, you find no fault in an innocent persons name being published in a news media as wanted by police for the purchase of an ingredient used in the manufacture of methamphetamine, the same innocent person being arrested and jailed, and the victim having to pay bail, around $10,000 for a private attorney, $10,000 to get the charge expunged or sealed, you find no wrong here?
Word.
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: kriminalelement]
#9024858 - 10/03/08 05:33 PM (2 months, 5 hours ago) |
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OMG im from iowa and i would have to say this is ridiculous. If i were the cop i would feel like a jackass for arresting this man.
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Re: Anti-Meth Pseudoephedrine Law Snags Nasal Congestion Sufferer [IA] [Re: MuSHROOMMANIA]
#9025551 - 10/03/08 07:50 PM (2 months, 3 hours ago) |
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Yes, his PRIVATE attorney will have the case dismissed as there is no mens rea here unless there is something missing from the story.
This innocent victim will have a METHAMPHETAMINE precursor chemical charge on his record for some time now, until he PAYS out of his pocket to get the charge sealed or expunged on top of his defense attorney fee's, no big deal right, he was arrested and jailed when he used an OTC medication legally, he just purchased more than 7.5 grams within a 30 day period or 3.6 grams within a 24 hour period, but he had no intent to manufacture methamphetamine or transfer the OTC medication to a person with intent to manufacture.
Let me get this straight, you find no fault in an innocent persons name being published in a news media as wanted by police for the purchase of an ingredient used in the manufacture of methamphetamine, the same innocent person being arrested and jailed, and the victim having to pay bail, around $10,000 for a private attorney, $10,000 to get the charge expunged or sealed, you find no wrong here?
Word.
You said it all.
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