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 jasher
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 LSA Seed Dosing Question
#9009855 - 09/30/08 05:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey,
so i read a few things on dosing LSA using seeds one can buy from home depot, for example, and I keep reading drastically different numbers..
Some say use 4-6 seeds, others say 400-600. WTF?
Can anyone please explain this discrepancy to me?
thanks,
jasher
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jasher
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 Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: jasher]
#9009892 - 09/30/08 05:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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"I would go for HBWR, ive never done MG, but i wouldnt like 200-300 seeds in my stomach, 4-10 seeds in my stomach sounds like a better prospect."
I just read that.. So I deduce that: "hawaiian baby woodrose" seeds only require 5-15 while the other type takes 300-600.
let me know if i'm wrong about that.
will a cold water extraction get the pesticides off?
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: jasher]
#9009916 - 09/30/08 05:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly.
I have never used HBWR, but I have heard around 7 seeds is good, get that double check though. I am almost positive you can't find HBWR seeds at Home Depot.
With Morning Glory you can weight dosage in grams or in seeds.
I believe I did 6 grams of heavenly blue with a cold water extraction (4 packs? I don't remember).
It was good, but more would have been better, I just got a taste of the effects.
Those you should be able to buy at Home Depot/Gardening Store/WalMart.
You can buy untreated seeds as well.
I believe Burpee's seeds are untreated, not sure though.
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: jasher]
#9009918 - 09/30/08 05:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah HBWR are way more potent than the smaller seeds labeled Morning Glory/Flying Saucer/etc. You can find a lot of information regarding dosage on both types of seed in the forums or on Erowid. Calculate your dosage carefully because large dose can cause some discomfort including nausea and muscle cramps ( due to the vasoconstriction)
If you want to get the pesticides off , I heard a good way was to try and run some soap water on the seeds before extracting them (grind them and put them in a tea pouch , then into cold water with some stirring).
According to the information I could gather on the subject , you would be better off not washing them too intensively or you might extract some LSA in the process.
Edited by TypicalTripper (09/30/08 05:44 PM)
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It is best to order seeds through an internet source that deals with entheogens. For HBW seeds the standard dosage is anywhere from 4 up to 10, i usually take 12 in order to feel very nice. Rivea corymbosa requires in my opinion anywhere from 60 to a 100 seeds, 100 works like 10 baby woodrose seeds for me. Finally, Morning Glory seeds ( usually Heavenly Blue ) require around 400-500 for a good high.
Although soapy water gets some pesticide off, there is still some left. If i would work with store bought seeds, i would wash them, grind them up in a coffee grinder to separate seed coat from the embryo and then soak that in cold water overnight, adding a tiny bit of vinegar or lemon helps ( i used to think this did not work, but, it does indeed affect the potency )
Goodluck!
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 thedudenj
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: pruzhinkin]
#9010983 - 09/30/08 09:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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acid/base or non polar/polar extract it.
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: thedudenj]
#9011029 - 09/30/08 09:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea HBWR only takes about 10 to feel good, MG takes alot to feel the effects.
You could try Rivea corymbosa which is also good, its a tryp of MG and onlt takes about 15 seeds 
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: FuManchu]
#9011033 - 09/30/08 09:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rivea corymbosa is so strange it constricts my pupils but works great
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Re: LSA Seed Dosing Question [Re: thedudenj]
#9011895 - 10/01/08 01:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dosage with MG seeds is hard to suggest, especially with store bought seeds. The potency and quality varies quite a bit. Not to mention that ever body seems to react to LSA differently.
While I have heard of people getting effects from 30 seeds...I have experimented with MG seeds for a while, slowly increasing my dosage and tweaking the CWE method. It wasn't until i got up around 300-400 seeds that i finally got what i would call "tripping" effects. Just north of 500 seeds and i got what i was looking for.
For a starting point i would say go with 200 seeds (+/-50 seeds) don't go by the weight just get several packs of seeds and count out your dosage. Just be careful when you get into higher doses with MG seeds. They contain more than just LSA, and as mentioned already they can cause constriction though i have yet to experience this...
And search on this topic, there are a handful of topics regarding LSA/MG/HBWR posted every week on here...
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