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 LeftyBurnz
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 Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri.  [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8890337 - 09/07/08 12:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said:
Yeah, Civ4 is the best computer game ever made, for sure.
really? i never did get civ 4, i saw the previews and the screenshots and it didnt seem like it was better than 3.
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 Madtowntripper
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8890375 - 09/07/08 12:48 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've played every one, from Civ1 to Civ4 and Civ4 really is the best.
There's so much more customization, and more of the military units are useful. Big navies and air forces aren't optional, you can't just have a stack of 20 artillery and destroy anything. The whole game is much more balanced.
Don't get me wrong, I loved III, but IV is really the best of the bunch I think.
You definitely need the Beyond The Sword expansion to get the full effects.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8890784 - 09/07/08 02:46 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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will do when i have some money. 
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8892534 - 09/07/08 08:58 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Although I love Alpha Centauri
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8893589 - 09/07/08 11:58 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said:
you can't just have a stack of 20 artillery and destroy anything.
Coulda fooled me.
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It's common knowledge that Jewunit is an umemployed drain on society, supposedly attending some university that nobodies ever heard of.
He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores.
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: jewunit]
#8893595 - 09/08/08 12:02 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean, in Civ3 you could have a huge stack of artillery and bomb down a group of troops all down to one bar of life.
Now you can't bombard that aren't in cities, you have to directly attack with your artillery which usually ends with them all fucked up.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8893791 - 09/08/08 12:44 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I only play on easy, so it really doesn't matter.
What fun are video games if you aren't gonna win?
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It's common knowledge that Jewunit is an umemployed drain on society, supposedly attending some university that nobodies ever heard of.
He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores.
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: CosmicFool]
#8903258 - 09/09/08 07:32 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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CosmicFool said:
Although I love Alpha Centauri
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8905836 - 09/10/08 09:38 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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i wish sid mier would redo alpha centauri. its a badass game and i think that a makeover would make it even more badass. upgraded graphics, new units. would kick ass.
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8907615 - 09/10/08 05:12 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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we should demand it w/ threat of a planet buster if they don't comply
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: CosmicFool]
#8907637 - 09/10/08 05:15 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anyone w/ a console played Civilization: Revoution?
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: CosmicFool]
#8907936 - 09/10/08 06:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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this things are gnarly. it would be insane to refuse.
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8910332 - 09/11/08 02:12 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
are there any that come close to or are better than these two epic games?? i love turn based strategy and war games.
Not really. Y'know, Alpha Centauri is actually a collectors item since it is rare? I sold my retail copy for more than I paid for it.
The newest one, Civ. 4 with the expansions is the best. Alot of the redundant unit movement and city management has been consolidated to make the play smoother and efficient than the previous ones.
I have beat it on 'Emperor' difficulty before, but usually have to play 'Monarch' to win.
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two_rivers
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: DieCommie]
#8910618 - 09/11/08 03:11 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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did you guys play Colonization?
it came out i think 13 years ago or something like that, so i guess i wouldn't be surprised if nobody has...
it was made by the same developers as civilization.
and in a lot of ways, it's like Civ, but it's focused on one era only.
you get a ship full of pioneers and set sail out to establish colonies in the new world. your colonies produce goods and you can trade them with the natives (assuming you don't want to just butcher them) but most of the time you'll want to take your goods back to your homeland and sell it for a nice profit... as time goes on the greedy king will raise taxes on your colonies and you have the option of declaring your independence and if you can survive the onslaught of the king's powerful army then you've won the game!
there's a lot more to it, it's a pretty complex game.
the good news is though, that they've been working on finally making a "sequel" to this game and it's supposed to be out this month. they are calling it sid meier's civilization IV: colonization... but it's not an expansion pack to civ 4, its it's own game. i'm pretty excited about it.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/880/880345p1.html
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: DieCommie]
#8911110 - 09/11/08 08:52 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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leftysurprise said:
are there any that come close to or are better than these two epic games?? i love turn based strategy and war games.
Not really. Y'know, Alpha Centauri is actually a collectors item since it is rare? I sold my retail copy for more than I paid for it.
The newest one, Civ. 4 with the expansions is the best. Alot of the redundant unit movement and city management has been consolidated to make the play smoother and efficient than the previous ones.
I have beat it on 'Emperor' difficulty before, but usually have to play 'Monarch' to win.
really now? i dont have one of the originals, i got my alpha centauri from walmart for $10, it was just a cd and a case lol. i will definately have to try out civ 4 when i finally start making some money again.
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: two_rivers]
#8911122 - 09/11/08 08:55 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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two_rivers said:
did you guys play Colonization?
it came out i think 13 years ago or something like that, so i guess i wouldn't be surprised if nobody has...
it was made by the same developers as civilization.
and in a lot of ways, it's like Civ, but it's focused on one era only.
you get a ship full of pioneers and set sail out to establish colonies in the new world. your colonies produce goods and you can trade them with the natives (assuming you don't want to just butcher them) but most of the time you'll want to take your goods back to your homeland and sell it for a nice profit... as time goes on the greedy king will raise taxes on your colonies and you have the option of declaring your independence and if you can survive the onslaught of the king's powerful army then you've won the game!
there's a lot more to it, it's a pretty complex game.
the good news is though, that they've been working on finally making a "sequel" to this game and it's supposed to be out this month. they are calling it sid meier's civilization IV: colonization... but it's not an expansion pack to civ 4, its it's own game. i'm pretty excited about it.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/880/880345p1.html
now that looks pretty neat. i havent even ever heard of the original game.
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
~Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8981658 - 09/25/08 12:51 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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just wanted to let you know that colonization came out today if you're interested. i picked it up earlier and so far it's pretty damn fun.
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8985964 - 09/25/08 09:00 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Civilization 4 with expansions possibly might be the best game I have ever played, I have never had so much fun playing a single player game before.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: aDoS]
#8987018 - 09/26/08 12:04 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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No doubt, I  Beyond the Sword
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Re: Games similar to civilization and Alpha Centauri. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#8994010 - 09/27/08 04:53 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well they just released an updated version of the first civilization called Civ IV: Colonization, which may spark some interest.
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/946846.asp
e: just looked up 3-4 posts and someone already posted this, that's what I get for not reading the entire topic.
Edited by Cporzl23 (09/27/08 04:54 PM)
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