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Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers
    #8985135 - 09/25/08 05:54 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

This article gives me the heebie jeebies.  This is what happens when you put a bunch of racist redneck bastards at the opposite side of a border from a bunch of muslim allies.  Let's just thank god that the damage in relations with our allies is only mediocre, and that we're not lobbing nukes at each other.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-1-0&fp=48dc9a66cfbef04f&ei=owfcSKbyDIu2gQPo8cWiBA&url=http%3A//www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/world/asia/26military.html%3Fem&cid=1250574313&npp=POP&usg=AFQjCNGKh9CoBjR1GYldKASthJB8dikwag


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8985153 - 09/25/08 05:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

> and that we're not lobbing nukes at each other.

Considering that we control their nukes, it would be kinda hard for them to lob them at us.


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Seuss]
    #8985174 - 09/25/08 06:01 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think that's true.  I took a quick glance at this article and don't see anything to substantiate that claim.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/nuke/

Also I remember hearing a bunch of state department people around Nov-Jan complaining about the stability of their nuclear arsenals control (due to the whole assassination mess).


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8985189 - 09/25/08 06:06 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

> I took a quick glance at this article and don't see anything to substantiate that claim.

With respect to this, my information doesn't come from the news... though it isn't really a secret either.

> Also I remember hearing a bunch of state department people ...

Who would never stretch the truth to remind people about the dangers of terrorism.  :wink:


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Seuss]
    #8985245 - 09/25/08 06:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Who would never stretch the truth to remind people about the dangers of terrorism.




I'll give ya that.  And I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that we do control their arsenal in some respects.  A lot has happened there in the last year.


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8985461 - 09/25/08 07:12 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

From your article

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American and NATO officials said that the two helicopters were flying about one mile inside Afghan air space to protect an American and Afghan patrol on the ground when the aircraft were fired on by small-caliber arms fire from a Pakistani military checkpoint near Tanai district in Khost Province.




Perhaps you would have us cede control of Afghanistan to Pakistan.  And any other place in the world douchebags with guns would oppose us.  Welcome back Jimmy Carter, we hardly had time to forget you.


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8985476 - 09/25/08 07:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

We regularly cross the Pakistani border and then lie about it :shrug:


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8985498 - 09/25/08 07:20 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

> We regularly cross the Pakistani border and then lie about it :shrug:

So we should respect a border that the fighters attacking our troops do not?  When Pakistan begins to take out the fighters that are using their border for protection, then I will agree that the US should respect said border.  Until then, anybody along the border that is fires a weapon is fair game.  I'm surprised the US has not returned fire.


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8985873 - 09/25/08 08:44 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Ferris said:
This article gives me the heebie jeebies.  This is what happens when you put a bunch of racist redneck bastards at the opposite side of a border from a bunch of muslim allies.  Let's just thank god that the damage in relations with our allies is only mediocre, and that we're not lobbing nukes at each other.





which allies are you referring too because the article implies the pakistanis arent allies...

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Pakistani and American ground troops exchanged fire along the border with Afghanistan on Thursday after the Pakistanis shot at two American helicopters, ratcheting up tensions as the United States increases its attacks against militants from Al Qaeda and the Taliban, who are being sheltered in Pakistan’s restive tribal areas.


“When our forces fired warning shots, we were a little scared of a possible retaliatory fire from the helicopters,” said one of the residents, Haji Said Rehman Gorbaz. “But we were happy to see the helicopter flying back into Afghanistan. We were happy that our forces fired at the helicopter.


American officials denied these claims, saying they were being manufactured by Pakistani officials in response to rising anti-American sentiment in Pakistan following the increased American activities in the border area.





friends dont try shooting your helicopter out of the sky and
they normally dont care if you cut across your yard


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8986040 - 09/25/08 09:12 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

They were warning flares fired when our helicopters crossed the border.  I assure you any country would have done the same.

We are allies, and we have sent troops over their border illegally before (sep 3 for sure).  So let's start with those assumptions.

What other rational do you suppose the Pakistanis would have for taking the actions they did?  A rogue soldier?  They sure didn't have the appropriate weapons to actually take down the helicopter if that was the case.  A mistake?  Maybe, probably not.  The most likely story is Pakistan's side in my opinion.  It's the one that makes any real sense.


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8986254 - 09/25/08 09:41 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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Ferris said:
They were warning flares fired when our helicopters crossed the border.  I assure you any country would have done the same.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6415531.stm


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We are allies, and we have sent troops over their border illegally before (sep 3 for sure).  So let's start with those assumptions.




we try and appease pakistan, they're our little pomerainian 
they'll jump through our hoops in hopes for getting $300+million back in arms deals that we reneged on

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What other rational do you suppose the Pakistanis would have for taking the actions they did?




it's funny but the US doesnt shoot planes down that illegally
enter our airspace, drug runners and the like, as long as they
dont land in the US they fly around unmolested and since we've
declared a war on drugs it seems that those people would be
our enemies just as terrorists are in the war on terror


who was it again that shoots at their allies?


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Re: Let's shoot at some more nuclear powers [Re: Ferris]
    #8987829 - 09/26/08 03:01 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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This is what happens when you put a bunch of racist redneck bastards at the opposite side of a border from a bunch of muslim allies.




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