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 garzythebear
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 San Pedro tek
#8980922 - 09/24/08 08:59 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Just wondering if anybody has used this tek to extract mescaline:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml
If so how successful was it?
Other thoughts; Would this be enough for an experience? Should one double the amount used? Any thoughts are appreciate
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 Mufungo
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Yep, I've done that one. One variation I did was to chop the flesh off of the spine of the cactus and throw the spine away. But otherwise, pretty much the same. One 30cm length of cactus will do the trick. You could double the amount used but keep in mind, you've got to drink this stuff down. The more concentrated it is, the more bitter thick and oily-like it becomes and then I find it more difficult to keep down once it's down. The less concentrated it is, then it's a matter of drinking volume which can be a task. So experiment with both if you like...
I found the Peruvian torch to be more intense experience than the san pedro, so trying a different variety of cactus might be better than doubling the dose, but each to their own...
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garzythebear
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: Mufungo]
#8983485 - 09/25/08 09:55 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Thanks for the info, good point on doubling the amount, as that would be hard to keep down. Is there a different tek for peruvian torch?
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 dwtk
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I used that tek as well, though the tea was extremely difficult to choke down..
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Mufungo
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Quote:
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Is there a different tek for peruvian torch?
Not that I'm aware of. Don't think there would be any need for another tec just because of the type of cactus. Peruvian torch look similar to san pedro except for the spines which are much longer.
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: Mufungo]
#8985947 - 09/25/08 06:58 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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I'd suggest trying bridgesii. I hear it is consistently worth it although it has been known to come back up on some people.
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: SonicKuz]
#8986102 - 09/25/08 07:20 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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wouldn't it be easiest to just boil it down to a shots worth, then chase it with a strong drink or something?
how bad can it possibly taste?
the closest thing ive had i guess is mescaline hcl, and it was very very bitter.
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: teefizzle]
#8986359 - 09/25/08 07:57 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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I don't find the taste as bad as the consistency. I did a shot of really concentrated stuff once and it came up as quickly as I shot it back, projectile stylie. It left a bitter oily snail trail from my tongue to my gut and back again that no amount of juice seemed to wash away fast enough. I think I prefer to have it more dilute and to chug back a few pints, it tastes bad but when dilute, it's easier to keep down and easier to wash the taste from the mouth.
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: Mufungo]
#8988322 - 09/26/08 06:28 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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I heard it can be boiled down just a tad (not too much!, just a tad). Keep the juice, mix it with some soy milk and regular milk, and start pounding it. Go until you are completely full and cannot put any more liquid in your body.
Lay back, be prepared to feel bloated and nauseated, and maybe a trip to the can will be warranted. But if your vomit has moving patterns, no worries 
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: SonicKuz]
#8988329 - 09/26/08 06:35 AM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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What my friends did was use a stomach pump, kinda looks like a huge syringe with a tubing in place of the needle. They poured the nice gooey thick cactus stuff in, and pumped it in the stomach. As long as they can handle stuffing the tube down the throat to the stomach your set. A few of them use a dental numbing agent to numb the throat & tongue to prevent gagging.
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I've never drank cactus sludge but that sounds a bit excessive to me, how nasty can it possibly be lol? I think I'd probably do an extraction if I were going to do mescaline, which I hope to in the near future.
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I admit that I thought of putting a hose down my throat and funneling it in, but yeah, that's a tad excessive.
The good news is that if it's fairly dilute the taste doesn't last that long in your mouth and it doesn't taste as bad as Ayahuasca or make you as sick as HBWR seeds with their husk on, and the trip is really enjoyable. I love san pedro, a very gentle teacher. If you're lucky you might be introduced properly to Pachamama, so make sure you're outside or near plant life of some sort if you can. San pedro is great for early morning tripping while watching the sun rise or late afternoon tripping while watching the sun set. San pedro is therapeutic for me in the sense that I have always felt grounded and at peace with the earth and at peace with being part of the earth during and long after the trips.
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Quote:
ccapistrano said:
What my friends did was use a stomach pump, kinda looks like a huge syringe with a tubing in place of the needle. They poured the nice gooey thick cactus stuff in, and pumped it in the stomach. As long as they can handle stuffing the tube down the throat to the stomach your set. A few of them use a dental numbing agent to numb the throat & tongue to prevent gagging.
what the fuck? tell that deep-throating wanna be psychonaut to man up and fucking drink the brew.
it gets better every time i taste it. 
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: Mufungo]
#8990554 - 09/26/08 05:36 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mufungo said:
If you're lucky you might be introduced properly to Pachamama, so make sure you're outside or near plant life of some sort if you can.
Whhaaaaa? 
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Quote:
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Mufungo said:
If you're lucky you might be introduced properly to Pachamama, so make sure you're outside or near plant life of some sort if you can.
Whhaaaaa?
silly human. Pachamama is holding you right now. Pachamama is the earth. 
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would using a beer bong (funnel with tube) with a dilute mix work well or is it the taste really THAT bad? no need to shove the tube down your throat... just let gravity do its thing. right?
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A beer bong hey? Hmmm, that sounds like quite a novel way to have it. It's not that bad or hard to drink, but a beer bong could be kind of fun if you're doing it with other people. You could create some sort of ritual... ritualistic filling of the funnel and chugging of the medicine.
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Suppose everyone had a box with something in it: we call it a "beetle". No one can look into anyone else's box, and everyone says he knows what a beetle is only by looking at his beetle. -Here it would be quite possible for everyone to have something different in his box. One might even imagine such a thing constantly changing. -But suppose the word "beetle" had a use in these people's language? -If so it would not be used as the name of a thing. The thing in the box has no place in the language-game at all; not even as a something: for the box might even be empty.
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forget beer bongs. this isnt a fucking keystone light its a powerful psychedelic sacrament.
i just drink it. the taste for me is an insignificant part, it passes so quickly. just take big sips, and don't let your tongue touch the roof of your mouth. the taste is there to humble, to ground you. concentrate on your intent and clear your mind to prepare for the ancient and spiritual realms of San Pedro consciousness.
maybe i can stand the taste since i use a singa now. pouring tobacco brew down your nose makes drinking a nasty tea seem like a walk in the park. 
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Quote:
ccapistrano said:
What my friends did was use a stomach pump, kinda looks like a huge syringe with a tubing in place of the needle. They poured the nice gooey thick cactus stuff in, and pumped it in the stomach. As long as they can handle stuffing the tube down the throat to the stomach your set. A few of them use a dental numbing agent to numb the throat & tongue to prevent gagging.
This is a bad idea. Let me explain why:
That numbing agent is going to subdue your gag reflex. And if you are filling your stomach and esophagus with cactus juice, you risk the possibility of tossing some back up. If you are numbed in the throat and spew a little, you might aspirate or let some of the liquid into the wrong pipe. And that would mean your lungs would have cactus juice in it. Not good at all. I'd hate to explain that one at the hospital.
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Re: San Pedro tek [Re: dwtk]
#9033882 - 10/05/08 06:26 PM (1 month, 29 days ago) |
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I chased it with a tiny sip of.... Robotussin. And I mean a TINY sip. It nearly completely neutralizes the fucking god awful taste. I just want it to work. DO any shroomery sponsors sell legit cuttings? Or can anyone post a link or PM with a legit site? I have choked down nearly a gallon of this shit, all together, with little effect. I WANT THE MESCALINE RIDE!
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