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Amanita ID......?
    #8978627 - 09/24/08 01:57 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Its me again!  Ok I am pretty sure this is some sort of Muscaria but from what I have seen on this forum they are the poisonous type.  They are cool looking though and I found it under the same tree I had originally found the A. Muscaria Formosa!!  I didnt pick any yet (because I know you guys love to check out the base) :lol:  but maybe a general educated guess and then if things look sorta ok I will go snatch one up from under the tree to get a better shot!  :super:  But I am almost positive they are no good for consumption......

 





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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8978655 - 09/24/08 02:01 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

You forgot to include a pic of the base of the stem.


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8978703 - 09/24/08 02:10 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

LMAO....:grrr:  It is in the neighbors yard so I don't want to pick it unless there is a chance that it is edible....so any chance its edible and if so I will get my spoon and go scoop one up right now!!  :pirate: Garrr!


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8978780 - 09/24/08 02:24 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

You need a pic of the base of the stipe, try to collect specimens of mushrooms you want to ID, it makes it easier for you and everybody else to ID them if you have access to the specimens to take all kinds of pics.

Maybe wait until it gets dark out then go and grab a few.


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8978825 - 09/24/08 02:33 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Cool I was thinking of doing that all in the cover of night thing!  Thanks Weiliiiiiii!  I knew I would here from you or Alan.  Yeah I guess you are right about the stipe thing because I was looking at picks of the Amanita family and based just on the colors it looks like it could be A. Pantherina, A. Rubescens, A. Excelsa or I had even seen a Picture of a Formosa that looked almost tan to brownish in color.  For now on I will just grab one or knock it over to save me the trouble of sneeking around.... :rofl:  By the way the last Amanita I picked popped right out of the ground base and all.  Can I expect the same easy pickins with all Amanitas?  Or should I still dig?


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8978841 - 09/24/08 02:36 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

I usually have to dig around the amanitas i pick, its best to get the whole base up for a proper ID


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8978892 - 09/24/08 02:46 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

Aye aye cap'n!  As soon as the bright star in the sky sinks I go covert!  :boc:


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8979511 - 09/24/08 04:31 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

awesome...a covert mission,nice!Thats the way I feel everyday when Im in "the fields" lol


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8979524 - 09/24/08 04:33 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

I went to "Garden of the Gods" in southern ill. not too long ago and found many of these specimen. I was really far from home though and didnt wanna pick them and try and keep them safe and out of lil bro'z hands so I left them for someone else!]
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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: pfshroomer]
    #8980112 - 09/24/08 06:23 PM (2 months, 9 days ago)

LMAO :rofl:  My first covert mission is complete!  Came back with a pocket full of dirt a handful of Shrooms and no arrest!!  It makes it that more exciting that it is against the law sometimes....SOMEtimes...like when you don't get caught!  :lol:  Garden of the gods huh?  Sounds amazing!  I am gonna have to look into that!  Good thing my lil brother is only a year younger than me.  He just disagrees with anything against the law in fear of getting caught which makes him over paranoid and not much fun to talk to about this stuff.  So he sticks with drinking....ALOT!  :toast:  Hey!  Its the Legal alternative..... So here is my find....I picked a few but I left a bunch there.  Don't want to wipe out the whole population.  So I got pics of the stem and gills.  There is no Anulus (skirt left from the veil right?)  and I see no concentric rings near the base of the stipe.  These also grew on the opposite side of the tree that the Formosa grew from.  And the million dollar question.....What type of Amanita could this be?  :confused:










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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8982589 - 09/25/08 02:49 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

The genus amanita...gorgeous mushrooms, but a bitch to ID if they're not one of the very familiar species. I wouldn't even venture a guess on this one :shrug:


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: koraks]
    #8983041 - 09/25/08 07:12 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

I need at least an educated guess!  :einstein:  If not to ingest just so that I may keep a record for future reference since I am making a sorta portfolio of all the pics I have taken and I need to give the folders a name.  I might be going to the Fungus Fest out here on Sunday! :laugh:  Maybe I can bring the Amanitas with me there to get a better ID?  But until then perhaps just a couple of educated guess's would be nice.  :shrug:  Hey ya know what I also just noticed......In the first set of picks when they are in the ground I see and Anulus (veil separated from the cap) but the ones I picked and brought home have no sign of the Anulus?  Maybe it rubbed off when they were in my pocket?  Or could there be 2 separate Amanitas growing there?


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8983404 - 09/25/08 09:30 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Hey Alan.  I am not sure how this whole posting thing works yet.  It gets confusing but I posted a pic of those Amanita Stems except I think I replied to PF Shroomer instead of you?  I dunno?  No rush or anything and I know you need to wait 24hrs for a response but just wanted to make sure you got this post.  I am still trying to figure out the workings of this forum. :drool2: :shrug:  Thanks!


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8983415 - 09/25/08 09:33 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

This site is great, check it out

heres the genus Amanita

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/amanita.html


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8983472 - 09/25/08 09:52 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

it doesnt matter who u reply to,its available for everyone to see!
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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8983603 - 09/25/08 10:27 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

LoL...What a coincidence!  I had stumbled upon Mushroomexpert.com last night and jotted it down so that I may return.  Thanks Weiliiiii!  I'll check that site out again later today!  :rockon:  This is all so overwhelming since I am brand new to the study of mushrooms.  I went camping bout 2 months ago upstate NY and seen some cool looking Mushrooms.  My buddie I went with said his friend was hiking a ways in and that if we had time we would meet up with him and grab some shroomies (which never happened) and ever since we got back my head has been spinning around the Mushroom concept!!  Its like I was infected and I needed to find a way to get Mushies!!!  :cuckoo:  And I had remembered my friend Richie (rest his soul) had informed me that ordering spores is A-ok and that the process could be done yourself.  So I ran with his advice (guy was a genius!!!) and for bout a month now I have been trying to make my own Cubes!!  But in the meantime to pass the time (since I am jobless) I have been doing alot of hiking and hunting to keep my mind off the grow (and so I thought) but mushies have been popping up everywhere this year which has me wondering what they all are, are they edible, are they active and the list goes on and on!  I am actually a really bad weed head but since I have gotten involved in studying mushies it has entertained alot of my time and I have actually lost that fiending urge to smoke Ganj!  So it is sort of a blessing because I HATE fiending for weed!! :hissyfit: LMAO  Anyway thanks man! Appreciate the link!  :super:


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8983611 - 09/25/08 10:29 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Okie Dokie PF!  Thanks man! :wink:  You don't go by another alias as PF Logic by any chance do ya?  :confused:


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8983683 - 09/25/08 10:50 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

I am gonna make an un-educated guess and say they are Amanita Pantherina's.....though I don't see those ridges on the outer edge of the cap in any of the pictures presented on that site..... :hissyfit:  Damn it all!!  Thanks again guys!  I have a shit load more of Mushies I found that I am going to put in one big post!  They are not actives I don't believe........just curious of what class they are or division or sub division er somthing.....:flowstone:


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: Affenicum]
    #8984218 - 09/25/08 01:02 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

The annulus was lacking in your collected specimens, which I found very confusing. Now that you clarify that there actually was an annulus (and I also notice it in the first pic in this thread :foreheadslap:), a. pantherina sounds like a reasonable guess. I couldn't recommend eating these in any case; if you're set on eating amanitas, stick with the real edible species or with a. muscaria if you're looking for a buzz. Which is, I must stress, something you should really think twice about before you embark upon it. Keep in mind that the effect of amanitas is completely different from that of cubes.


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Re: Another Amanita ID pleeease...... [Re: koraks]
    #9001404 - 09/29/08 06:03 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

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The annulus was lacking in your collected specimens, which I found very confusing. Now that you clarify that there actually was an annulus (and I also notice it in the first pic in this thread :foreheadslap:), a. pantherina sounds like a reasonable guess. I couldn't recommend eating these in any case; if you're set on eating amanitas, stick with the real edible species or with a. muscaria if you're looking for a buzz. Which is, I must stress, something you should really think twice about before you embark upon it. Keep in mind that the effect of amanitas is completely different from that of cubes.




Thanks Koraks!  I am aware that the "buzz" is different from the Cubes due to its chemical nature and that is the only reason I was a curios about these amanitas. (that and there awesome color makes me want to gobble them up!)  I appreciate your input.  I had just got back from a Fungus Festival and had these ID'ed by the Poisen Amanita Expert.  He claims they are Amanita V. Crenulata and told a story of a bum found sleeping on the rail road tracks with a pocket full of these guys.  When they attempted to take him to the hospital he went Berserk and the hospital crew had to tie him down because he was loosing it and trying to kill people!  Poisen Expert Man had said after a few days he recovered and they tossed him back out on the street.  :frown:  And at the fair all I had seen was tons of these Amanita Crenulata.  But the ones at the fair were a more off white than the guys I had which were a more grayish color. Any second opinions?  I am gonna research these Crenulatas and see if it matches.  I think he said Pantharina's do not grow by us.


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