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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #8950575 - 09/18/08 07:18 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Society/culture/government is great at imprisoning minds.

We should just be thankful that we were so lucky to be able to get passed it.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950581 - 09/18/08 07:19 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

i was reblious and curious is like alot of my acid trips. i rebel against almost everyone then im just curious what their gona do about it and watch. i spend most my time on lsd just people watching slightly rubbing them the wrong way. some people like it others dont. but thats just what i do, im a trouble maker tho i will make things easier if things are presented the right way.

while other times im really easy going and things just flow


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950585 - 09/18/08 07:19 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

I'll consider myself thankful when I try acid and deny all the claims made by "Big Brother."


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950600 - 09/18/08 07:22 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Society/culture/government is great at imprisoning minds.

We should just be thankful that we were so lucky to be able to get passed it.




I love mckenna's youtube video "Culture is your operating system"

it makes me happy to know that psychedelics freed me from the ideas people on this big rock have told me.  And see everything as it is.  Only me.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #8950616 - 09/18/08 07:25 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

LSD is a much more gentle ride than shrooms, mainly because the mind fuck on shrooms is 10x that of acid (with approx same level trip).  Of course, a bad trip on both is possible, but with LSD I don't find myself getting lost in Time continuum's or anything.  (This is with my personal experience only, I know people who have FLIPPED on LSD)


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #8950617 - 09/18/08 07:25 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

im not only thankful, i am grateful. Respectful too tho i dont think i always show it that well.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: thedudenj]
    #8950641 - 09/18/08 07:30 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Personally speaking, I'd say the worst bad trip can come from LSA.  There's something about that compound that can give the proverbial hours of catatonic despair and really sink its teeth into your soul.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950645 - 09/18/08 07:30 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

How could a tiny fraction of a drop of something mess you up that bad?  Really is a profound thought if you think about it.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: deCypher]
    #8950659 - 09/18/08 07:33 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

LSA has gone real bad for me on doses of 15+ HBW seeds.
I remember getting very angry and I have never been angry while tripping.
Dont be fooled by it's lack of visauls LSA's are very powerful psychedelics.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950764 - 09/18/08 07:51 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

What is LSA? And what is it in? I heard morning glory seeds have it and those are LEGAL to buy from a store... but what would I ask the clerk to help me find?
Cause I know going into a headshop asking for a "bong" is like "wtf?! we don't sell bongs! water pipes!"

and how many seeds come in a bunch or whateve.r


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: Shroom_dancer]
    #8950786 - 09/18/08 07:56 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Lysergic acid amides.

They are a group of chemicals similar to LSD that occur naturally. 
Hoffman modeled LSD after one I think it was ergotamine tartate.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950853 - 09/18/08 08:07 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

LSA is can give really nice visuals depends on the person. its given me stronger visuals then some LSD trips or been equal


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: thedudenj]
    #8950863 - 09/18/08 08:09 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Ya I think tangerines had said the same thing.

Weird because I get hella visuals from every psychedelic
except LSAs I just get some morphing.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8950868 - 09/18/08 08:11 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

On LSA I rarely get visuals.  The mindfuck IMO is far stronger than with shrooms or LSD, though, especially if you mix in syrian rue.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: deCypher]
    #8951014 - 09/18/08 08:45 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

oh well there you go maybe thats it i dont get much of a mind fuck from it. as always shit just gets really really real


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: thedudenj]
    #8952850 - 09/19/08 02:35 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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skcorrelyt said:
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So neither of them have a better chance of giving me a bad trip?

I'm excited to do acid. It seems safer than shrooms and you don't have to have that bad taste in your mouth if you eat it.

Wish me luck! doing it within the next 2 weeks




Safer than shrooms? I always got the impression shrooms were safer. They grow naturally, they aren't created by the feeble hands of humans.

I'm no expert though.

Good luck to you. Enjoy your trip. :tongue2:

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To fight nietzsche's quote
Cancer.

Kinda bad to say but it's true. Back to the post... thanks for the input. I now know that neither is stronger since both are very different drugs. It's like trying to compare a building to an ipod.. you just can't do it. they're both very different.




Maybe Nietzsche wasn't lending his meaning to just our physical state.
Food for thought.





but um dont deadly poisons grow naturally too... saying something is safe just cause it grows naturally isnt the best though, humans grew naturally too




i guess. i trust nature more than clumsy humans is all, i guess.
personal opinion.

but i did however say, i was under the impression THAT (insert rest of what i wrote) was merely commenting on how we had differing opinions.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8952857 - 09/19/08 02:37 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Safer than shrooms? I always got the impression shrooms were safer. They grow naturally, they aren't created by the feeble hands of humans.

I'm no expert though.





Sorry to call you out but uranium arsenic and cyanide are
Natural.

My point is that the fact that something is natural as
opposed to synthesized has absolutly no correlation with
how safe it is.




and humans still create far more or equally destructive things.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: deCypher]
    #8953193 - 09/19/08 04:06 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

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Personally speaking, I'd say the worst bad trip can come from LSA.  There's something about that compound that can give the proverbial hours of catatonic despair and really sink its teeth into your soul.




Wow, I have never heard anyone on here or any one in real life say anything trippy about LSA. I've only eaten HBWR and a few seeds a time (3-5) but even from that amount I am definitely tripping...though all times except one I smoked pot and that one time I just had a lethargic feeling and nausea like mad. I had heard that pot exponentiates LSA, but I found it really does and I think it explains why most people find LSA to be bunk.

I've shroomed with a group of people that I wasn't 100% comfortable with and it didn't go amazingly but it wasn't bad....  on HBWR I was tripping with a few people that I was ok friends with and things were really weird* until I was by myself - things were incredible initially (feelings of being reborn) then I listened to some Ravi Shankar and shit went downhill...If I let my mind to itself too long it would "spiral" out until I felt like I was about to lose my mind, then I would bring it back...I eventually came down and fell asleep.

That was *really* scary and I found out later it was close to how I felt when I had panic attacks. Unfortunately none of my friends get nearly the same mental effects so I feel bad saying no when we start talking about HWBR trips...

*This guy I had never met before came in to chill and I got bad vibes from him all night. We were chatting, he knew we were on drugs and he was trying to trip me up by asking me questions and tell me bad things ( my hometown is a piece of shit lol). Later everyone except him and I left the room and he swerved the convo into a dark story  about how he was traveling and saw these clowns eating other carnies. He made it pretty obvious and went overboard talking about how these demons were flying around and stuff.... lol next time I saw him was in the campus library and I was millimeters from socking him in the face.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: fazdazzle]
    #8953808 - 09/19/08 10:25 AM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I've definitely experienced panic attacks on the peak of a HBWR trip, especially when ganja is thrown into the mix.  Intense stuff to say the least.


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Re: Bad trips. Shrooms vs LSD [Re: deCypher]
    #16690255 - 08/12/12 11:49 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Only had one truly bad trip and that was on acid. Had other trips that were uncomfortable but had learned that they would eventually pass.

For me a bad trip consists of absolute terror. Fear is fear and in that case it will last a lot longer during an LSD trip.


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