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Pauvro
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Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms!
#8943644 - 09/17/08 09:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Habitat: Found growing in grass, someone's front yard. In Northern Maryland, USA.
Gills: The gills are a bright orange and are attached to the stem.
Stem: Growing in clusters, longest stem about 6-7in shortest about 1-2in, diameter about 1/2 inch, maybe a tad more or less for some, orange color, firm texture, they are solid and some are a bit thick. At the bottom where the stems meet and bunch up there are a lot of beads of orange to very dark orange liquid, or resin. It looks like tree sap! See pictures at bottom of the post to see what I mean.
Cap: Diameter ranging from 1 to 3 1/2 in, color is darker brown in the middle and it fades to a lighter orange outward to the edge of cap, firm texture, Cap is interesting as in the middle it has a raised brown bump that is noticeably harder than the rest of the cap, and a diameter around that bump of about 1/2inch is slightly lower then the rest of the cap. Also some caps are showing cracked looking veins. See pictures at bottom of post for a view.
Spore print color: It's looking like it's orange, but I guess you could of guessed that? At least that's what it's staining the paper, but I'll keep it under there a lot longer and update if it turns out to be different.
Bruising: No noticeable bruising.
Other information: Mushroom smells very good, almost like pepperonni or lunch meat, it smells like it would be delicious, it's a strong smell. As in, I have it about 2 ft away from me on the computer desk and I'm contemplating moving it to an isolated room because it's ALL I CAN SMELL! haha. Also, as you can see in the pictures some of these grew smaller than the others, is there a term for that? What I mean is some caps in those clusters have a bigger diameter then those smaller ones. One last thing is that the caps are sort of shiny in a way.




Thanks for any help you can give!
Edited by Pauvro (09/17/08 09:48 AM)
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N2loma
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943705 - 09/17/08 09:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was thinking poisonous Jack-O-Lanterns at first glance of those clusters but if the print is orange as you say, its a possible active Gym. However, I'm still leaning toward Jacks on account of those long stems (active Gyms I've found have stocky, bulbous bases whereas the Jacks looked very much like your specimens) and the fact that I don't see any ring-zones.
My recent Gym finds had young shrooms and tiny pins that bruised blue-green readily on the stems; the mushrooms had a sweetish anise-like aroma. This seems to be a good feature to lookout for.
Don't bioassay before more Shroomerites chime in! Jacks can rip you a new one!
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Edited by N2loma (09/17/08 09:56 AM)
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: N2loma]
#8943750 - 09/17/08 10:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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It'd also be handy if you could share a photo of the spore print. The Jack prints should be yellow-white; Gyms orange or orange-brown.
You may also want to cut some mushrooms open to look at the characteristics of the cap and stem flesh; if it happens to be pumpkin orange I can guarantee you have Jacks (Gym flesh tends to be on the yellowish side from my limited experience and my field guides).
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943791 - 09/17/08 10:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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N2loma
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Huh, I haven't yet seen A. tabescens that orange. I still have a bad feeling about these shrooms...I think this is a good case for a spore print pic.
For comparison:
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/omphalotus_illudens.html http://www.mushroomexpert.com/gymnopilus.html
Sadly A. tabescens, Gymnopilus, and Omphalotus are all coming up in my area!
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Edited by N2loma (09/17/08 10:27 AM)
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: N2loma]
#8943829 - 09/17/08 10:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think they are fine. I would eat those.
If the spores were orange they would be all over everything by that age.
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Pauvro
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: N2loma]
#8943830 - 09/17/08 10:26 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm still in the process of taking the spore print. The only thing I can notice right now is that it is slightly orange, but I want to wait a few hours to be sure. Here is a picture of the stem and cap flesh!


To me the cap flesh looks like it could go either way, it's hard to tell.
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943838 - 09/17/08 10:28 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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How does it taste?
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943841 - 09/17/08 10:29 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The solid orange or orange-yellow stem makes me doubt its an Armillaria and makes me think Jack...doesn't rule out Gym, it seems 
For the OP >> Armillaria spores should be white and abundant
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Edited by N2loma (09/17/08 10:30 AM)
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Pauvro
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/armillaria_tabescens.html
Try frying them up, they are good.
I'm no where near as sure as you are that these are indeed armillaria tabescens. For one, those are no where near as bright as mine are.
As soon as the spore print is completed I will post a picture of it.
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Pauvro
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: How does it taste?
Should I attempt to taste one? Is there any harm in that with this type of mushroom?
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Pauvro
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943859 - 09/17/08 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also, I should note that while handling them as I biked home and then putting them onto a paper towel they did leave orange on my hands and the towel. It doesn't come off in abundance but I mean my hands have orange marks and so does the towel. Does this mean anything?
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943861 - 09/17/08 10:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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There shouldn't be any risk if you don't swallow, but I don't know the specifics of Jack toxins.
The orange stains are probably due to the mushroom juices; on a positive note I get them from local Gyms. However, I don't remember if Jacks I've found also stain...
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Edited by N2loma (09/17/08 10:38 AM)
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said: I think they are fine. I would eat those.
If the spores were orange they would be all over everything by that age.
They are NOT fine. Those are Jack O Lantern mushrooms and poisonous!
Have him attempt to see them in the dark.
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8943867 - 09/17/08 10:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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So far I've failed to make Jacks glow, but I'll try again this season
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943870 - 09/17/08 10:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pauvro said: Also, I should note that while handling them as I biked home and then putting them onto a paper towel they did leave orange on my hands and the towel. It doesn't come off in abundance but I mean my hands have orange marks and so does the towel. Does this mean anything?
Yes, it means something Pauvo. It means you have a poisonous mushroom.
Here is a picture of the same mushroom leaking on my table while I was taking a spore print a few days ago.
Do NOT eat them!
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Pauvro
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8943896 - 09/17/08 10:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's interesting that one person would eat them, and another thinks they are poisonous.
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Pauvro]
#8943905 - 09/17/08 10:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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All of us posting are trusted identifiers but none of us are perfect. We correct each other all the time.
Ask Alan now what he thinks.
He knows Honey Mushrooms never bleed orange.
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Re: Bright Orange Clustered Mushrooms! [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8944012 - 09/17/08 11:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I changed my mind, these are probably really bad to eat.
I have never seen that species of Omphalotus before, we don't have it out west.
I see that they were unable to fool anyone that lives on the east coast.
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Yeah, looks like omphalotus, but I initially thought they were armillaria too.
Btw, those pics are very good, keep it up!
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