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homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine ( in testing phase)
    #8933429 - 09/15/08 12:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I just got struck with a thought. I know that after taking mushrooms i feel much relief from anxiety, so what if we were to make a medicine of dry mushrooms powdered and inserted into pills and took them every day or every other day. Tolerance would build up after the first time and if you took 1-2 grams a day it could provide relief without the addictive benzos. Has anyone took mushrooms continuously in small doses every day for a long period of time?



just posting an idea as it came to me.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8933436 - 09/15/08 12:28 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

i know theres someone on here whos been doing like .5 grams or something everyday for a couple of weeks now, cant remember his/her name tho


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8933510 - 09/15/08 12:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If the anxiety is due to deep-seated mental issues, a few high dose mushroom trips might be more likely to help in the long run than temporarily alleviating the symptoms with low doses of mushrooms.

Besides, you'd probably run into tolerance issues eventually.  Have you tried Kava Kava?


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: deCypher]
    #8933766 - 09/15/08 01:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I feel that Kava Kava works well, but it takes a very long time to kick in for some reason..


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: dwtk]
    #8934079 - 09/15/08 02:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

even on a half gram dose, it would be weird being in public, and I'd get too antsy.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934137 - 09/15/08 02:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

ive only done 8ths +. i wanna try doing just a gram sometime at a party or in public. they really take away my anxiety, except for the come up. thats always the worst part.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: goop]
    #8934170 - 09/15/08 02:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well my idea is you first would trip on mushrooms. so maybe do an eighth to start the treatment. this creates tolerance, which in this case you would want. the next day and continuing you would take .5-1 gram a day in like 000 pills or whatever and because of the constant tolerance you wouldn't trip and it wouldn't be awkward. As long as you keep taking the medicine each day you should remain in the tolerance zone and it should prevent you from tripping but still give you the anti-anxiety effects. at least i would think.


the point is even if you have to take it every day, every other day, or as long as you can go until the tolerance starts to ware out it still is more beneficial then taking benzos as you won't become addicted and you won't have to deal with dangerous withdrawals which have been able to kill people. so even if your taking it every day i would think it would last longer then benzos without all the negatives that come with them.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8934187 - 09/15/08 02:57 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

couldn't you accomplish the same thing with a .1 dose instead of building up a tolerance first?

I've eaten low doses of mushies for probably 4 days in a row (mostly .5-1gram) and didn't notice any differences in the trip, just got used to the feeling and was able to relax more.

of course I also took a bunch of benzos that week, so i was never at a real mental baseline.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934197 - 09/15/08 02:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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couldn't you accomplish the same thing with a .1 dose instead of building up a tolerance first?





yea i would believe so


my point was that you have to trip or else you have to slowly increase your dose in order not to trip in the beginning.

and it would probably be beneficial to take an eighth anyways. so why not take the fast approach lol.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8934211 - 09/15/08 03:00 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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couldn't you accomplish the same thing with a .1 dose instead of building up a tolerance first?





yea i would believe so


my point was that you have to trip or else you have to slowly increase your dose in order not to trip in the beginning.

and it would probably be beneficial to take an eighth anyways. so why not take the fast approach lol.



some people would probably be uncomfortable or would freak out on an eighth dose.  It'd have to be in a clinical setting.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934236 - 09/15/08 03:04 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well i was thinking this was like at home type stuff, but your right.


If the person cannot handle a trip or it is deemed they should not because of their condition a controlled slow increase would be a good idea. This would basically follow the procedure of starting them with .1g the next day .2 the next .3 the next .4 the next .5 continuing till they reach their normal dosage.

In reality they don't need to go all the way to their normal dose though. i believe a .1 then .2 then .3 would be sufficient as long as the normal dose is .5-1g.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8934245 - 09/15/08 03:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

just enough to kill the ego eh? :mushroom2:


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934285 - 09/15/08 03:11 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well i mean i wouldn't say killing the ego.


really this sounds like it could work quite well. i would be willing to try this as i have the mushrooms to do it, but that would mean not being able to trip during the trial. if we want something like this to actually work out we would need human testing, and if we already are doing illegal things such as tripping on them why not test it on ourselves.


I really do like where this is going though. I have tripped two times and i have never felt so confident and happy in my life. The tendency for me is to give up because i just can't do things, which leads to depression, but i have been all smiles since my last trip.


my first trip was 2 grams and it was perfect. I felt so good, and the afterglow was definitely noticeable. Now it's just deciding if i want to give up a long period of tripping to test the effects. of course anyone could test it though.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8934294 - 09/15/08 03:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

do it and report back asap


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934325 - 09/15/08 03:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yay, new forum wide experiment!!


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934332 - 09/15/08 03:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you might want to also consider what other compounds or chemicals are going to be introduced to your body every day if you choose to use mushies as your "treatment drug of choice". I'm not saying it will be bad, but I do believe it may, like any daily dose of ingested drugs,  negatively affect your kidneys and liver. I also have some problems with anxiety but attribute most of it to chronic pot smoking. Hope it helps! Peace.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: Libertycapper]
    #8934335 - 09/15/08 03:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

does toxicity of a substances directly correlate with liver/kidney damage, or are there other factors involved?


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: Libertycapper]
    #8934355 - 09/15/08 03:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well i do not know the other chemicals in mushrooms but Psilocybin/cin was classified as less toxic then aspirin, and there are people that take aspirin every day for pain relief, so I don't think it would be a real problem. I think i am going to do a week of testing and see how it goes. There is a girl i want to ask out really badly but i have put it off for more then a year because of anxiety and that would be a perfect test for me.


I believe i have gelcaps that i could empty out as well and i already have tolerance built up from my last trip.


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: teefizzle]
    #8934364 - 09/15/08 03:25 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know that a substance that doesn't cause liver damage at a singular high dose would have any adverse affects on the kidneys/liver  on many lower doses over a period of time

could be wrong though :shrug:


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Re: homemade anxiety and other mental issue medicine [Re: willowmp]
    #8934387 - 09/15/08 03:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well there have been people that have trip binged so...



ill do it for a week at .5 grams unless i have enough to do 1 gram in a pill. i will take the pill in the morning early each day.


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i have 18 grams so i will do 1 g a day


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