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b3jamboree
yes we have no portabellas


Registered: 09/11/06
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Loc: 45th Parallel, MI
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: jccc]
#8892924 - 09/07/08 08:06 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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That is good to know RR, we will have to see how it goes I guess.
Yeah JCCC, I'll post plenty of pics. This will be an interesting project, snow flying or not...
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InfiniteOhms
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Registered: 10/01/06
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8908810 - 09/10/08 07:24 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said: If you have a place to bury a shipping container, they're free for the taking near any port. They'd rather give them away than ship back to china empty.(another reason to boycott walmart by the way) RR
Really? I live near a port, but i have never heard of such a thing... i suppose this only applies to the west coast ports? ... Too bad, i would love a buried shipping container mushroom greenhouse.
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jccc
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: InfiniteOhms]
#8908941 - 09/10/08 07:53 PM (2 months, 23 days ago) |
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Me too! Ive considered harvesting solar energy with one by buring the container and cutting the top off to install some sort of tranparent material. A couple of layers of glazing installed with it would help in the winter to take in heat and hold it in. This also gets rid of trying to set-up lights, and thus saves money from energy. If it were buried it would also act like RR cave he was describing. Depending on the area it should stay a cool year round in a buried container. As far as draining excess moisture you could install some drains in the container and when setting the container down in the hole put 6 inches of gravel underneath the container to allow water to drain.
Just my 2 cents
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Paresthesia



Registered: 07/02/08
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: jccc]
#8911183 - 09/11/08 07:17 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Shipping containers are being used for lots of things these days. Here's an article I found after a quick Google search: http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Converting_Shipping_Containers_for_Housing-Building_Systems-A2382.html
The company mentioned in the article is in Florida, so I would imagine they're available in pretty much any coastal area with a decent sized port nearby. My major concern with burying these would be rust. Buried wood can last longer in the soil than steel, as my brother the ex-archaeology student can attest... especially in coastal areas. 
If you're looking for "green" options, consider straw bale construction. The walls of these structures are surprisingly durable and the thickness provides excellent insulation.
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: Paresthesia]
#8911732 - 09/11/08 10:16 AM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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I'll be getting one on my property this winter or next spring. I live on the side of a mountain, so have the perfect place to bury it.
Yesterday, I had 12 yards of horse manure, and 12 more yards of top soil delivered, and talked to the owner about shipping containers. He estimated his costs to go to Seattle and get the container at $800, and figured it would take four hours @ $100/hour with his large backhoe to set it in place and bury it into my mountain side. That was for a large, 40' long container. Add another $2,000 to have it rhino coated before burying. That's $3,200 for a great under ground grow room. I could easily make that up on the first few flushes of Shiitake.
I'm thinking a few skylights installed in the roof and routed up through the soil to the surface would give light, and the inside would be painted white to reflect that light. A home built windmill could be geared to the inside to provide circulation fans and fresh air intake. My goal is to provide as close to a zero purchased fossil fuel energy grow area as possible. Since I'm in a remote location in the mountains with unlimited dead wood supply, a wood stove inside can help make up for lost heat from FAE during winter. We already heat our cabin free from wood from our own property. RR
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b3jamboree
yes we have no portabellas


Registered: 09/11/06
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Re: Plants and mushrooms in the same greenhouse [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8915183 - 09/11/08 09:08 PM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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3200 ain't bad at all RR, we are gaining on 10,000 with the greenhouse and everything that goes with it.
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