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 stinkybritches
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#8894107 - 09/07/08 11:03 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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hi everyone,
Im new to the boards here, but not new to psychedelics. Recently, I decided to expiriment again with hawian baby woodrose seed. It had been a few years since I last tried them. My previous expirience was on of the best psychedelic expireinces I have had. Not at the most mind blowing, but it was one of the most pleasant ones and it was the only time I had ever tried it. I took 5 scraped seeds and had very nice closed eye visuals. This time, I took the same dose and didnt feel a thing. The next day I ate triple that and became violently ill. No hallucinating either. well it felt more like a death trip. I couldnt do any thing but roll around in my bed. I felt poisoned. My heart was about to explode. I was affraid to go to sleep because I thought I would never get up. I felt very close to death. And not closer to the spirit world.
So I was wondering if anyone else had expirienced anything like this and how I can get that good LSA trip I had a few years ago.
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Sounds like a bad strain. HBWRs can vary so much from one batch to the next, honestly. Just order some of the Hawaiian strain from a respectable online vendor, wait a while for your tolerance to die down, and you'll be good to go. 
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 Re: Hbwr seeds [Re: deCypher]
#8894223 - 09/07/08 11:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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alright cypher thanks alot. as a matter of fact the first batch I tried I believe were of the hawaiian strain but the ones I last took somebody gave to me so I had no idea. Mabey they went cheap when ordering it. I guess you get what you pay for. do you have much expirience with this drug
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i have a ton of experience with lsa in almost every seed it comes in and have done almost every consumption method and i got to agree with cypher you gotta get hawaii strain and eat like 10 and have a good time o and i would strongly suggest to buy some syrian rue along with the hbwrs when you buy it online its most likely on the same site. and make sure its a reputable source i have had bad experiences with sites in the past pm me for a ref if u want one
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hmmm... i have had a fair bit of experience with hbw (they grow everywhere where i live - in QLD Australia), i noticed the first trip is usually quite interesting, but i also found (not jus me, but a friend as well), that they seem to get worse each time
The first time i took it it was great, the second time me an my frind tooka higher dose than the first time (and despite my warnings, my friend decided to attempt a dose that in my opinion was way too high for his weight and experience with psychedelics), i had a very intense night, while my friend freaked out and is now severely depressed and hates my guts (he should have listened)
After that every trip i took on hbw was more uncomfortable, slightly painful and terrifying than the last... this may have something to do with my friend, but i cant really be sure, all i know is just thinking of hbw seeds makes me wanna throw up, and after my last experience (i thought i forgot how to breathe lol), i have come to the conclusion that, once they stop being fun, just move onto something else
btw... after my second experience i never took that high a dose again, then on my last trip it was the lowest dose i had ever taken, an it still scared the shit out of me (and im not easily overwhelmed by intense drug experiences)
i have had a similar decline in trip quality with each trip on DXM as well, but i would do that again... im not sure what it is about HBW, but once you stop enjoying it, you probably wont have much luck trying to get that back
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Did you just eat them straight? The nausea definitely does increase each time this way, and eventually makes the trip unbearable. Either perform an extraction, or grind them up and put the seeds into capsules to get past the nausea.
And yeah, syrian rue definitely makes for a good combo with HBWRs. It exponentially increases the intensity of the trip, though, so be careful.
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Re: Hbwr seeds [Re: deCypher]
#8896054 - 09/08/08 11:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I ve actually been meaning to get some rue for the next time I do mushrooms or acid. I ve never tried a rue combinations or rue alone for that matter. how much rue would I need to injest prior to taking the HBWR seeds. And how should I go about taking it. should I make a tea or swallow them whole or parachute them. what would you guys say is the best method and dose(of each). oh yeah does the rue change the character of the trip at all or does it just potentiate it.
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Just thinking about HBWR makes me feel sort nauseous. Don't get me wrong, the later half of the trip has always been a positive experience. Just that first half where I don't want to move and hover over the toilet.....no thanks to that.
I've tried grinding them up, saturating them in white wine over night, discarding the seed particles, and drinking the wine. Only downside there is the process dumbed down the good and bad sensations both.
I've never tried rue with HBWR.
And, yeah, each time I take it the negative sensations become greater.
Eating them in yogurt seemed to be all right. But still.....
I've developed a technique to get past all that though: I only eat them when I've forgotten how bad it was the time before.  Clever, huh?
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The straight-up taste of rue is downright nasty, IMO. Just grind up rue seeds and put them into capsules, and take two hours before you take whatever psychedelic you wish to potentiate.
3 grams of rue is supposed to be optimal for full MAO inhibition, and that comes out to about 1.5 teaspoons of ground-up seeds. The character of the trip definitely changes from just the HBWR--it lends a distinctly spiritual, almost teacher-like aspect to the trip.
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Re: Hbwr seeds [Re: deCypher]
#8896606 - 09/08/08 01:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya the rue taste does suck but i dont think it worth the work to put it in capsules unless you are that ofended by the taste i like to advocate just eat it straight up
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It's seriously not that much effort... 1.5 teaspoons of ground-up rue will fit in about 6 capsules, which takes maybe ten minutes to fill up.
Everytime I've tried taking a shot of syrian rue with lemon juice, or parachuting it with TP, I invariably end up massively puking.
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my girl friend eat them stright last night so only ate 6 but she only small. Shw was sick a little but ok after.
Best way is to crush it up as fine as you can then eat the powder shit 
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i havent beeen sick with rue ever my trick is to get some Oj and throw some seeds in your mouth sip some OJ and chew the seeds up it actualy works try it befor you dout it it actualy gets rid of all of the taste its just a weird texture
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The next day I ate triple that and became violently ill. No hallucinating either. well it felt more like a death trip. I couldnt do any thing but roll around in my bed. I felt poisoned. My heart was about to explode. I was affraid to go to sleep because I thought I would never get up. I felt very close to death. And not closer to the spirit world.
EXACTLY what happened to me on my first LSA trip. I got such a euphoric body high, my friend and I were laughing for like 20 minutes non-stop. Then I fell asleep, and woke up one hour after, and I was totally fucked. At this point I should've been peaking, and I was just confused, and had no fucking idea who or where as I, and I kept feeling like I was in a loop.
After that I learned that extractions are the way to go if you don't want nausea, sick feelings, etc.
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Or gel caps of the ground-up seeds. Straight-up chewing of nausea-inducing compounds is never beneficial.
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amen to that ^
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But i agree that LSA is great. I'm glad that this isn't another thread where someone gets sick or anxious and then we all have another "FUCK HWBR" thread to deal with.
Yeah i starte it because I had a very good time on it and then a very bad one. so I wanted to get to the bottom of it so I can enjoy another drug that was good to me.
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