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 OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008
#8908259 - 09/10/08 04:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008
MOTIVE: To get Spaniards on the Shroomery! and then find shrooms...
I want to post this to see if anybody else in ESPAÑA, or the IBERIAN PENINSULA and the BALEARIC ISLANDS for that matter actually visits this website, EVER.
After living in Catalonia now for 6 years, I am truly disappointed to have never been able to find any of the 3 species of local active mushrooms Psilocybe Seminlanceata (Liberty Caps), Psylocybe Hispanica, or Copelandia Cyanescens  and I hope that by posting this I will be able to break my losing streak.
SO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE?
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8908374 - 09/10/08 05:05 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should search for Spain and see what else you can find.
This is one thread you should be aware of:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6326986#6326986
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Thanks Rockafeller We need more of those kinds of posts at the Shroomery. 
Somehow that one slipped by when I searched the forums.
Rockafeller's thread link, originally posted by limicorum, is about GALICIA, the Atlantic Northwest of Spain. Limicorum finds P. Gallaeciae, and posted a few beautiful photos comparing said shroom to P. Semilanceata.
P. Gallaeciae only grow in Galicia.
So now if somebody could please post something similar to limicorum's post with info about shrooms in CATALUNYA, the Mediterranean Northwest, and/or the north PAIS BASCO, BASQUE COUNTRY, I would greatly appreciate it!
P. Gallaeciae only grow in Galicia.
There are only a couple of threads, and nothing recent, about P. Hispanica here in the Shroomery, the actives that grow hight in the Pyrenees...and zero posts about Spanish Copelandia Cyanescens...M.J. Shroomer was positive that they grow all along the Mediterranean. Does anybody have photos?!
I know those P. Semi's are out there...just a matter of time I suppose till I hit the jackpot.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8911009 - 09/11/08 05:00 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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None that I know of. There is one way to ensure more Spainards post. You keep posting and mention Spain. Also tell others.
If you say Spain cubensis it show up in Google when someone does a search for those two words.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8914664 - 09/11/08 06:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Excelente Señor Hongos! Thanks for the advice.
Yes, I know there are some fine mushies to be found here in Spain....I will find them yes I will...
I will go ahead and list the known species of active mushrooms found on the Iberian peninsula by region.
Catalunya:
Psilocybe Hispanica
Psilocybe Semilanceata
Panaeolus Subbalteatus
Panaeolus Cyanescens
Aragon
Psilocybe Hispanica
Psilocybe Semilanceata
Basque Country / Pais Basco
Psilocybe Semilanceata
Galicia:
Psilocybe Gallaeciae
Psilocybe Semilanceata
There are no Cubes to be found anywhere on the Iberian Peninsula.
And someone wrote somewhere that P. Cyanescens were found way up in the Pyrenees once. Can that be confirmed!?
Also in a bunch of field guides from Spain list Panaeolus Sphinctrinus as an active species, not to mention many spanish forums...perhaps they are a different species from the P. Sphinctrinus found in the U.S.?
I guess that about sums it up for now. The list above is by no means exhaustive. I wrote it out from what I could remember off hand.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8914713 - 09/11/08 06:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Panaeolus sphinctrinus is now known as Panaeolus papilionaceus and is an inactive species.
There might be other active Panaeolus species that look a lot like it.
You'll have to start photographing and saving samples of the various Panaeolus you come across.
One more suggestion, the species names should not be capitalized, only the genus names. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botanical_nomenclature
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8915268 - 09/11/08 08:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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De nada, mi amigo.
Check out this Google link:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&rls=ig&q=Spain+cubensis+
Your thread is now 5th from the top. Manipulating the database can do so much.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8916509 - 09/12/08 01:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks to Alan Rockafeller and Señor Hongos for your excellent information!
I am making a repost with the proper nomenclature and complete names so that this thread will be found by google in future searches.
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up_right said:
Catalunya:
Spain Psilocybe hispanica
España Psilocybe hispanica
Spain Psilocybe semilanceata
España Psilocybe semilanceata
Spain Panaeolus subbalteatus
España Panaeolus subbalteatus
Spain Panaeolus cyanescens
España Panaeolus cyanescens
Galicia:
Spain Psilocybe gallaeciae
España Psilocybe gallaeciae
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8916751 - 09/12/08 04:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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That is exactly the way it is done.
You are more than welcome, my friend. Come back and post with us often. May you find what you are looking for.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8916833 - 09/12/08 04:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Somehow I have the feeling that I am going to be the first and last to post pictures of Spanish semis and/or hispanicas this year...
I am determined.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#8916851 - 09/12/08 05:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good. Success is sometimes due more to determination than genius.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#8917148 - 09/12/08 07:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your suggestion has worked beautifully...let's see what happens!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=españa+psilocybe+semilanceata&btnG=Search
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#9019270 - 10/02/08 04:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I knew I was going to be the first one to respond here with some finds!
Some ID needed if possible...
We found some nice tasty ceps, rossinyols, possible p. hispanica, possible galerina's  ,
and a few more that I couldn't figure out.
Please tell me what you think!
These were all found in the Pyrenees up in northern Catalunya, Spain, 1500 meters and up.
And it was dry up there, NO LIBERTY CAPS  . Most of the suspected hispanica's I found were dry and really small.
Psilocybe hispanica?
Same shrooms from above photographed + one oddball, biggest cap measured little over 1 cm
Gill shot
Same shrooms from above drying
Same shrooms dried, all had chocolate black spore prints
Different shrooms found dried...suspected hispanica
Dinner!
Next day dinner!
And the rest...shroomy death delight, and quite abundant I might add.
NOT EDIBLE. NO COMESTIBLE.
NOT EDIBLE. NO COMESTIBLE.
NOT EDIBLE. NO COMESTIBLE.
NOT EDIBLE. NO COMESTIBLE.
If this is a galerina, it is a giant...
No idea here...growing on moss. More ??? I tossed them, no spore print.
These were all found growing off horse dung. Possible hispanica.
And these? Taken from horse dung.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: up_right]
#9019559 - 10/02/08 05:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yo pienso, pero no mucho. 
I think you did very well. Yes, I would say those are P hispanica and Galerina. The ones on moss might be Entoloma.
Nice finds!
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9019958 - 10/02/08 06:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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And someone wrote somewhere that P. Cyanescens were found way up in the Pyrenees once. Can that be confirmed!?
pyrineos , segun yo ahi es tan frio que la confusion puede ser con psilocybe cyanescens que podria ser alguno parecido .
Also in a bunch of field guides from Spain list Panaeolus Sphinctrinus as an active species, not to mention many spanish forums...perhaps they are a different species from the P. Sphinctrinus found in the U.S.?
-many paneolus are active or mild active, sphinctrinus is in my list .and the complex is very diferent from place to place in the active chemical perhaps diferent species, or confusion with subb and other active paneolus
ole! tio hasta que los españoles se hicieron presente en hora buena.
Psilocybe hispanica?
no , pudiste observar algun cambio de coloracion, sino lo notaste es muy improbable tu especimenes deben ser Psilocybe merdaria muy comun en excremento de caballo , y tiene anillo .
creo que tienes una mezcla de especimenes alli unos que son inactivos posible ps. merdaria , otros psathyrella y por ejemplo estos
too bad you throw this ones
para mi opinion estos podrian ser hispanicas los demas no . tenes que ver bien si la esporada es purpura-cafe o negra cuesta un poco diferenciar los colores pero es importante , si recoges de otros hongos te ayudara a perfeccionar los colores en las esporadas.
, en lugares calidos in en mierda de vaca no de caballo puedes encontrar copelandia cyanescens,
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: cactu]
#9020330 - 10/02/08 07:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sí, es posible.
Esto es Psilocybe hispanica.
http://www.mind-surf.net/drogas/hongos/pscilocibehispanica.jpg
Esto es Psilocybe merdaria.
http://micologia.net/g3/albums/Psilocybe-merdaria/Ps_merdaria_coprophila_Isidro.jpg
Mientras que no un anillo que parece un fibriloso divida en zonas. Cómo es triste.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#9020450 - 10/02/08 07:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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yes the ones with a ring and no bluing are not hispanica i guees here is a quote from a site:
Psilocybe merdaria is distinctive because of the yellowish tinges in the pileus, hexagonal spores in frontal view and habitat on dung. Psilocybe merdicola differs particularly by the larger, not hexagonal spores. Psilocybe coprophila and Ps. subcoprophila differ by their more reddish brown colours, and different size and/or shape of spores.
So far Psilocybe merdaria is the only species in subgen. Psilocybe where acanthocytes have been found in the basal mycelium. This type of structure is more common in subgen. Stropharia.from here http://www.entoloma.nl/html/psmerdaria.html
is one of those some of the specimen i guess.
in this picture is the only one i guees can be active
you can notice the grass atach to the stem in the big one and the hygrophorus cap , and maybe bruising.
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: cactu]
#9020599 - 10/02/08 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is it just me or did those Inocybe looking things you found in moss bruise blue at the base?
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: landsnorkler]
#9020634 - 10/02/08 08:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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that why i mean too bad he throw those i guess is not only you
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Re: OFFICIAL SPAIN THREAD: FALL 2008 [Re: cactu]
#9022061 - 10/03/08 01:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Señor Hongos, Cactu,
Excellent info. Thank you!
The inocybe looking shroomies found on moss left no noticeable spore print.
The mushies shown growing directly from dung left this.
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