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Help to identify underground mushrooms
    #8901324 - 09/09/08 10:20 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Greetings from Lithuania! Maybe some one could help me with mushroom identification. All of them were founded in caves, sewers and dungeons.
Thanks in advance.
Daumantas L.

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No:6 (same as below)


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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8901335 - 09/09/08 10:21 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

The 4th one was found on the rat scat. All of them was located in Lithuania.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8902120 - 09/09/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

1) Its one of inky cap mushrooms, probably a Coprinellus
2) Mycelium from a Coprinellus.  Its hard to say what species it is without a picture of the mushroom however Coprinellus domesticus is known for producing orange mycelium.
3) Hard to say for sure, looks like one of the white spored wood rotter mushrooms.
4) Pin mold on rat scat
5) More pin mold
6 - 7) These young mushrooms are a bit small to tell which species they are.  Post some more pics of them if you can come back in a bit and find ones that have grown more. 

Exploring the caves, sewers and dungeons of Lithuania sounds like a lot of fun!  Do you have a site where you have posted the rest of the pictures?

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8902468 - 09/09/08 02:39 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I am really grateful for your help. Unfortunately i don't have a website where you could find more pictures.
Actually i am an entomologist and i am writing a book about underground insects and other invertebrates this is really interesting subject.
In one of Vilnius sewer system which was constructed about 30-40 years ago i was lucky in discovering mushrooms which are marked by number six. I noticed an odd beetles on those mushrooms. Discovered beetles belongs to the Hydrophilidae family.
This is very strange because Hydrophilidae beetles usually don't eat mushrooms.
Talking about those mushrooms, this specimen was the biggest which i found. I could ship for you an example if you could identify it. Anyway thanks for the help, i will mention your name (as a mycologist) in the book about fauna of Lithuanian undergrounds.

P.S.
I am  adding a picture of a place in which sixth mushroom was found

P.P.S.
Maybe some one knows the Latin name of that pin mold? I heard that this pin is very dangerous for humans. As I know this pin mold could be found only on the rat scat.






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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Troll Bot]
    #8902628 - 09/09/08 03:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

That is my hand :smile:
I have collected plenty of examples from  dungeons which are even more crazier than these are

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8903392 - 09/09/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I am really grateful for your help. Unfortunately i don't have a website where you could find more pictures.




You could put them on a photobucket or flickr page for free if you want.

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Actually i am a entomologist and i am writing a book about underground insects and other invertebrates this is really interesting subject.




Oh cool, I was guessing that you were an urban explorer going into the dungeons for fun.

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In one of Vilnius sewer system which was constructed about 30-40 years ago i was lucky in discovering mushrooms which are marked by number six. I noticed an odd beetles on those mushrooms. Discovered beetles belongs to the Hydrophilidae family.
This is very strange because Hydrophilidae beetles usually don't eat mushrooms.




Perhaps the beetles were there looking for other insects, a lot of things that like to eat insects hang out near mushrooms due to the constant supply. 

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Talking about those mushrooms, this specimen was the biggest which i found. I could ship for you an example if you could identify it.




It wouldn't do any good to mail me the undeveloped mushrooms as its not possible to ID most mushrooms until they get more mature, they all pretty much look the same when they first start out.  Once they get a bit older it might be real obvious what they are just by looking at them, if not you can mail me some dried mature specimens and I'll check them out under the scope. 

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Anyway thanks for the help, i will mention your name (as a mycologist) in the book about fauna of Lithuanian undergrounds.




Cool!

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8906148 - 09/10/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I will check that sewer again and if i will find some examples (only i don't know how should look mature mushrooms of this kind) i will inform you and if you will be able to identify those, i will ship it to you.
And it would be very nice if some one could identify for me that mold which is in picture 4 and 5.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8906299 - 09/10/08 10:42 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Welcome to the Shroomery.  I'm not that familiar with Zygomycota.

However I did find some growing off a Mycena haematopus.



I'll create a link in the contamination forum and see if anyone can help.


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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8906393 - 09/10/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I really appreciate your efforts and i am glad that i have found this web page with such obliging persons!

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8906421 - 09/10/08 11:09 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

You're welcome, D.

The Shroomery is the best mushroom message board on the planet.  (Can you tell I'm biased?)

We have a competent staff and members willing to help.

If you have any mushroom questions ever, just ask.  And please tell your friends about us if they're interested in mushrooms.

I'm delighted to have an an entomologist as a member.

Good luck with your publications!

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8906499 - 09/10/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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I will check that sewer again and if i will find some examples (only i don't know how should look mature mushrooms of this kind) i will inform you and if you will be able to identify those, i will ship it to you.




When mature they look more like conventional mushrooms and less like little scraps of paper.

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And it would be very nice if some one could identify for me that mold which is in picture 4 and 5.




I am not sure if it is possible to ID a pin mold to species without a microscope.  Even with a microscope it would probably require some serious books that most people don't have at home.  Your best bet might be a university.  Or maybe someone around here knows.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8906581 - 09/10/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

His best bet would be a university given the maturity of the specimen, i.e. no spores to define it.  The likeihood one of our guys could nail it with those photos might be remote.  Still, I posted it.  You never know.  They identify mold as a hobby in the contamination forum.

Personally I find hunting mushrooms more interesting.  It takes all kinds I guess.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8906956 - 09/10/08 01:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Alan is it alright if i ship for you those mushrooms preserved in alcohol (i will add more than one example to the parcel, those are needing some identification too) ?

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Alan Rockefeller said:
I am not sure if it is possible to ID a pin mold to species without a microscope.  Even with a microscope it would probably require some serious books that most people don't have at home.  Your best bet might be a university.  Or maybe someone around here knows.




Actually i am working in University of Vilnius in the entomology lab. I tried to show those pin molds for the mycologist but unfortunately he is unable to identify it.
But like Senor_Hongos says maybe someone will be able to identify those pin molds to genus or family from the picture?

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #8907443 - 09/10/08 02:46 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Alan is it alright if i ship for you those mushrooms preserved in alcohol (i will add more than one example to the parcel, those are needing some identification too) ?




I usually work with dried specimens but if they are already in alcohol then that will work too.

Check your private messages.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #9127687 - 10/24/08 03:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Here is another one from the old sewer system.
P.S.
I'm going to ship this one and other sp.  (still searching for others) for Alan to identify


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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #9127697 - 10/24/08 03:56 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

That one is likely to be in the genus Marasmius.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #13214499 - 09/18/10 03:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So, atlast (after a year brake) i managed to find those weird shrooms in mature stage. Maybe now some of you could ID them? Im making a spore print. Some of them are already preserved in alcochol, others will be dried (and  shipped for Alan, if he still can identify them :smile:















There was 15 colonies in one floor of underground (~ 40 square meters)

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #13214527 - 09/18/10 03:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe a Lyophyllum species.  Cool pictures in any case.

Can you get any of them to drop a spore print on tinfoil?

Maybe you can harvest a cluster with as much mycelium attached as possible and let it mature above ground with lots of humidity and some light, they might mature differently with light.

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Re: ID underground mushrooms [Re: D.Liekis]
    #13214625 - 09/18/10 03:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I just prepared transperant plastic for spores, but if you think that foil would be better, than i'll use foil. As i understand method is the same?

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