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 MushroomTrip
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 Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: sleepy]
#8891321 - 09/07/08 03:06 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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sleepy said:
yeah but you can see that its not actually a service, its not actually work, and if its not work, its stealing. thats my opinion.
Really? So just because she is not paying any taxes to the state, she is stealing? 
Interesting concept 
Not to mention that she IS providing with a service, unless you care to demonstrate otherwise.
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i had the same problem when i worked for dominos. i dont think dominos pizza is healthy food. its bad for people and bad for the planet to have dominos everywhere.
Blah blah... pointless, irrational and flawed perception caused by a personal experience that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.
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most jobs are not neccessary for either survival or happiness, thats the way it seems to me at least, please prove me wrong.
Most of them? Have you got any statistics on that?
Anyways, lots of things might appear as unnecessary, but, the fact is, that if they exist and they support themselves there is demand. That being said, it means that they're not so unnecessary after all, isn't it? 
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8891428 - 09/07/08 03:23 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
Anyways, lots of things might appear as unnecessary, but, the fact is, that if they exist and they support themselves there is demand. That being said, it means that they're not so unnecessary after all, isn't it?
Sure, they're necessary in our current, modern-day civilization, but it just seems inherently strange to classify telemarketers and such to be just as necessary as farmers in the grand scheme of things.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: deCypher]
#8891490 - 09/07/08 03:34 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Perhaps, she's selfish. There's nothing wrong with that.
Many people are very selfish. Does this act make her any more selfish than those who do work 'honestly'? Most people who do go to school to work and make big bucks are doing it out of selfishness anyways, no matter what kind of work it is. I don't see why we should hate on one person because her acts don't conform to the system.
Anyways, she could balance that out a bit by giving away some. Steal from the rich and give to the poor and friendly!
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: deCypher]
#8891574 - 09/07/08 03:49 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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The Cypher said:
Sure, they're necessary in our current, modern-day civilization, but it just seems inherently strange to classify telemarketers and such to be just as necessary as farmers in the grand scheme of things.
While I appreciate the humor in such a thought, I don't see what determines which to be more or less necessary rather than arbitrary distinctions being made. The market that materializes due to specialization of tasks regulates itself and, thus, determines which role everything plays. Obviously, there is a role for telemarketers, which, in itself, determines that their existence is necessary, in that moment.
Regarding what you said specifically, you made the classification "just as necessary", when no one had referred to a concept from which an example could be given that telemarketers were just as necessary as farmers. The poster you quoted simply stated that its existence implied demand, which means that it was not unnecessary, not that telemarketers would be just as necessary as farmers.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: fireworks_god]
#8891596 - 09/07/08 03:54 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Yeah, I agree with you. I'm simply pointing out that there is a gradation of necessity for jobs out there.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: deCypher]
#8891619 - 09/07/08 03:58 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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I just have a problem with people who make a ton of money for doing relatively nothing when I have to work for mine.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8891629 - 09/07/08 04:00 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Why does this bother you? What other people get in terms of money to work ratio should have no affect whatsoever on your own personal satisfaction. So long as you're happy, and receiving ample compensation for your work, there is no need to envy.
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MushroomTrip
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8891698 - 09/07/08 04:17 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:
I just have a problem with people who make a ton of money for doing relatively nothing when I have to work for mine.
That's a personal issue that doesn't say anything about people "who make more money than you", or about their jobs. 
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Redstorm]
#8891733 - 09/07/08 04:23 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Redstorm said:
She was providing the brokers a service by being a middle man between the ticket distributors and them. If she wasn't providing a service, she wouldn't make money.
the distributors sell the ticket to her, and they make a profit.
she in turn sells the ticket at a profit to the brokers, who sell it at a profit to the concert goer.
distributor/this girl/brokers are all the same, they just take a piece of paper (the ticket) and hand it off to another person while adding money to the final price... how is that an honest living?
it would be the same if i went to the supermarket, bought some food, and then sold it to you for twice the price in the parking lot.
the way the scam works is that she has a computer program that INSTANTLY buys hundreds of tickets as soon as they go on sale. Ya know how popular shows sell out in online sales within an hour usually? well, whoever wasn't fast enough has to buy a ticket from a broker that was originally bought in that same online sale by this girl with a computer program, but now the ticket costs 50 bucks more...
Edited by sleepy (09/07/08 04:34 PM)
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8891737 - 09/07/08 04:24 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
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MisterMuscaria said:
I just have a problem with people who make a ton of money for doing relatively nothing when I have to work for mine.
That's a personal issue that doesn't say anything about people "who make more money than you", or about their jobs.
Perhaps it is, I dont have to nor am I going to justify it, but I cant really help it if I feel that way, its just how I feel about it.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8891772 - 09/07/08 04:30 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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And I am not asking you to change the way you feel or anything.
It's just that, since this is only a personal issue, it doesn't stand as an argument in a debate forum.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8891789 - 09/07/08 04:33 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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what isn't a personal issue?
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8891794 - 09/07/08 04:34 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
And I am not asking you to change the way you feel or anything.
It's just that, since this is only a personal issue, it doesn't stand as an argument in a debate forum.
Im not here to debate or argue, Im just voicing a personal opinion on a situation and I dont see why that is a problem.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8891805 - 09/07/08 04:36 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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personally, i think everyone should buy tickets directly from the band. or else just use the honor system and throw money onstage, just do away with the ticket game...
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8891809 - 09/07/08 04:37 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:
I just have a problem with people who make a ton of money for doing relatively nothing when I have to work for mine.
Sounds like typical bitter old person talk about drug dealers.
"People who don't work are low life scum!  "
The way I feel about it, some people get lucky in life. And the miserable people who work their asses off to sleep will continue to find any excuse to bitch and hate on those who have it easier than them.
It would be nice if everything was a little more equal. However, bitching wont change anything.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: deranger]
#8891818 - 09/07/08 04:38 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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drug dealing is different. the law created them and we need our droogs. theres no other way to do it while they are illegal.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Redstorm]
#8891851 - 09/07/08 04:44 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Redstorm said:
She was providing the brokers a service by being a middle man between the ticket distributors and them. If she wasn't providing a service, she wouldn't make money.
the brokers are just as bad of a scam as she is. why cant a regular person buy the tickets directly from the band without going thru scalpers?
i mean, if i had 5000 trillion dollars, i could buy all the food in the world, and since u want to eat, you'd have to buy it from me no matter what i charge u. dont you all understand metaphors?
one of us is wrong, and its u!
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: sleepy]
#8891867 - 09/07/08 04:49 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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and i dont wanna argue anymore. i have my daily scalping to go do. the stones are coming to town i'm gonna make a fortune
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: sleepy]
#8893244 - 09/07/08 08:54 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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why cant a regular person buy the tickets directly from the band
That is absolutely nonsensical. The bands don't own the venues so they can't sell tickets.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Boots]
#8893620 - 09/07/08 10:08 PM (2 months, 25 days ago) |
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It seems pretty selfish to complain about other people being selfish. As if you are somehow entitled to everyone else being exactly how you want them to be.
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