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 b0red5tiff
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 dreamstate & collective unconsciousness
#8887610 - 09/06/08 05:01 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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i've had two of these kinds of trips.
both on 2g of mushrooms.
what happens is i drift into a dreamscape type of reality. i seem to sleepwalk around and always go lie down in my bed. it really is like falling asleep, except with the help of mushrooms a part of me remains awake and observes.
the dreamscape has a different language than this reality, so it's very difficult to describe it with words and letters.
what i saw in the last trip went something like this: after taking the tea 15 minutes later i started to feel this vibration. colours got brighter, i felt like i was melting and lied down. from that moment on i was kind of asleep, but not really. and then i saw what i guess was the "collective unconscious".
the basic idea was that i didn't know what sensory tools i used to "see" it. i didn't see it per se, it just was in front of me. the CU functioned like this: when people were asleep or in some similar state (maybe some yoga states) their "vibration" rate of existence changed. it was a huge ocean ball of liquid/gas/matter that was made of the human soul/essence/mind. it was one. the people who were in sleep states were egoless, to an extent, and they were stuck to the ball. the more they fell asleep/vibrated, the more they melted, like a human-shaped snowman on a hot plate, until the person had totally melted into the ocean/ball/CU.
and the people who woke up or regained their egos began to vibrate on a different frequency and the ball/ocean would start giving them shape again. the more a human regained consciousness the more his/her ego began to shape him/her again and finally they were pushed out of the ocean/ball/CU and they went about their waking life.
that was basically like that. i know these descriptions seem childish but i can't translate dreamscape language that well, maybe experienced psychonauts and shamans can.
thought i'd share.
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 deCypher
Registered: 02/10/08
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Re: dreamstate & collective unconsciousness [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8888920 - 09/06/08 11:03 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Mixing the dreamstate with psychedelics can make for a fascinating experience. Have you tried Amanitas?
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redgreenvines
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Re: dreamstate & collective unconsciousness [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8889413 - 09/07/08 01:40 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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you are doing some good thinking in terms of vibrating at a different frequency, vibration is definitely involved and matching the "frequency" is definitely part of accessing stored experiences.
every signal in the brain is a series of pulses or a vibration or a waveform.
the normal "conscious" state is obtained when the series of pulses fades after less than 1/15 th of a second.
interference from such short waveforms is used to join up the experience into memory, and simmilar remembered experiences are cued up for recall due to the simmilar interference of vibrations (as if being tuned in by frequency matching in precise areas of the brain).
the psychedelic and dream states are obtained when the series of pulses fade more slowly - effectively lasting from 1/14 th of a second to a full 3 seconds, after which the complexity of interference disables memory formation and recall.
when the signals fade just a little more slowly, the moments become layered or stacked up, and all senses seem richer, space becomes larger, trails are noticed etc.
as the layering becomes more intense (longer fading - over 1 second), even the personality seems multiple layered and concurrent, you can have trails of different thought trains coexist and experiences that may even seem in conflict: personality trails that argue or react against eachother's ideas are common, or the sense of being possessed by another being, or of meeting a friend. Totally reliving experiences or dreaming up new ones is possible.
the commonality of such experiences can be seen as archetypes and this commonality has given rise to theories of the collective unconscious.
also the sense of place - familiarity of place, gives rise to the idea that the collective unconscious is a real place we come from and go to.
so, yes it has a lot to do with frequency and vibration, and it is very much like operating at a different frequency, but the frequency difference/increase is due to interference density, and that is due to longer signal fadeout.
simmilar to frequency needing to match to access "dream" memories, the density of interference has to match to achieve the precise cues, and strange phenomena (trails and color enrichment) which identify a return to the special state.
I think of it a lot like coming home.
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OsculateOfDemise
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Re: dreamstate & collective unconsciousness [Re: redgreenvines]
#8889453 - 09/07/08 01:52 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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I have definantly felt this vibration. Many have mentioned it during their phsychedelic trips, but what facinates me more is when I lucid dream. When I start to come out of it and wake up, I feel this vibration and then it feels like I am melting away. I am aware of this the entire time. It doesn't happen a lot but when it does it really feels weird.
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