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 Doing pointless/destructive things for money
#8889260 - 09/07/08 12:53 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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My roommate has a friend who does this. He says that she told him that she making about 15 grand Canadian per month doing this.
She uses a program to buy up thousands of tickets to various shows and concerts in seconds. The program can even read the captcha, which is designed to fool automated programs. The tickets are then sold to ticket brokerage sites on the internet, sometimes for ten times the original price or more.
The problem I have with this is that she does not provide any useful service to humanity. She simply makes money and prevents regular people from attending venues that they want to see.
In BC it is legal to resell tickets so that's how she is able to get away with it. But I mean common, what is this woman providing to anyone? Nothing in my opinion. And there are thousands of activities like this that people do all the time...
At the end of your life when you look back at all you have accomplished, can you really be proud that you annoyed thousands of people unable to afford a scalped ticket? Because every dollar you get is guaranteed to have really pissed someone off because they couldn't afford the ticket price.
Maybe I'm wrong on the issue. Maybe that's just the way humans are, very selfish and willing to do anything if it benefits them. So maybe I should just accept that people are going to do stuff like this because that's who WE are.
Maybe I should join them? But I can't... because money means fuck all for me. I mean I would rather have no money at all than do what she does.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889271 - 09/07/08 12:57 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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BTW my roommate told me about this after I was talking about this CBC Marketplace show:
http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/ticket_takers/
It was interesting because he didn't understand the impact of what she was doing, but after seeing a bit of the show he connected the dots. People seem to think that "ticket brokerage" is not the same as scalping. But in fact its exactly the same, only much worse.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889284 - 09/07/08 01:02 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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She sounds like a greedy bitch to me.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8889295 - 09/07/08 01:06 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Are you saying you wouldn't do it? 15k per month?
My guess is... and this is only a guess... most people would do it if they had the chance.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889299 - 09/07/08 01:07 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Yeah, itd be overly tempting, but Id feel like an asshole about it.
I dunno, its the kinda thing you get angry about hearing someone do though, like charging people for tap water when they have no other source of hydration and then sitting all comfy and cozy in a mansion, while people who cant afford it are dehydrated to death.
Its just as bad as the person who buys sheets of acid for 70 bucks and sells 10 dollar single hits.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8889329 - 09/07/08 01:14 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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You should just make a faster program, buy all the tickets first, then sell them to the community for way cheaper than other scalpers. You'd be doing humanity a favor and turning a slight profit.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#8889335 - 09/07/08 01:15 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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And you know what, there are thousands or millions of activities like this happening all the time.
I can't count how many of my friends lie and manipulate the system so they can collect unemployment insurance. You know what? Even when I could have collected unemployment insurance I DIDN'T. Because I saved my fucking money and was not in dire financial straights.
Now I look at my friend, let's call him Mike. Well Mike lied to the employment officer and collected his unemployment WHILE ON FUCKING VACATION OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
And since I pay my taxes, I am really paying for Mike to go on a meaningless vacation at the taxpayers expense. It's like he's somehow morally unaware of the "wrongness" of stealing money intended for people who actually need it.
Ugh...
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889370 - 09/07/08 01:24 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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adjust said:
My roommate has a friend who does this. He says that she told him that she making about 15 grand Canadian per month doing this.
She uses a program to buy up thousands of tickets to various shows and concerts in seconds. The program can even read the captcha, which is designed to fool automated programs. The tickets are then sold to ticket brokerage sites on the internet, sometimes for ten times the original price or more.
The problem I have with this is that she does not provide any useful service to humanity. She simply makes money and prevents regular people from attending venues that they want to see.
In BC it is legal to resell tickets so that's how she is able to get away with it. But I mean common, what is this woman providing to anyone? Nothing in my opinion. And there are thousands of activities like this that people do all the time...
At the end of your life when you look back at all you have accomplished, can you really be proud that you annoyed thousands of people unable to afford a scalped ticket? Because every dollar you get is guaranteed to have really pissed someone off because they couldn't afford the ticket price.
Maybe I'm wrong on the issue. Maybe that's just the way humans are, very selfish and willing to do anything if it benefits them. So maybe I should just accept that people are going to do stuff like this because that's who WE are.
Maybe I should join them? But I can't... because money means fuck all for me. I mean I would rather have no money at all than do what she does.
kill the bitch.
Seriously.
I have been fucked out of tickets and can rarely get floor seats thanks to those companies.
kill the bitch.
I even emailed then before and asked wtf they do with tickets that they dont sell the day of the event? no replies...They must throw out perfectly good tickets if they dont sell.
fucken cunt suckers.
kill that fucken bitch.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: sandman_130]
#8889424 - 09/07/08 01:45 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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What would that solve though? There are obviously hundreds or even thousands of other people doing the exact same thing.
And yeah they do throw out the tickets because they need to corner the market to drive up the price. They are just in it to make money by manipulating the supply of tickets to where it's most profitable to them.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889494 - 09/07/08 02:07 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Considering other people already take copious advantage of the system, I see no qualms in joining them. 
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889504 - 09/07/08 02:09 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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yeah money sucks but fuck if it doesnt make life a bit easier.
its not greedy to want a life that doesn't include you working yourself to death.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8889781 - 09/07/08 05:56 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Wow, I can't believe the answers in this thread! 
Not wanting to do the same thing with your own life is one thing, but experiencing so much anguish and hate because of someone else's actions is simply ridiculous, not to mention fruitless. 
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The problem I have with this is that she does not provide any useful service to humanity.
How can you know for sure if she is not doing anything useful to humanity? Maybe, by using this program, she will determine the owners of the websites that initially sell the tickets to increase the security level.
Also, why should it be a requirement for her to help the others?
The only problem that I see in here is your own inability to accept that some people will do things that you find amoral and that you personally would never do.
We are all selfish, thinking otherwise it's just an illusion in my opinion. Only that some people's selfish actions seem to be more socially accepted than the others. And maybe some people have reached the necessary understanding and skills to keep being selfish in a manner that is somehow beneficial to those around them.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8889831 - 09/07/08 06:52 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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Money can be a destructive thing full stop...no matter how it's made.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Alma Mistica]
#8889842 - 09/07/08 07:00 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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i must say
when i play my monopoly with my friends whoever is in the ?Bankers? seat always ends up cheating!.
then when i catch him in the act, "Oh i passed go, i collect 200"
HORSESHIT!
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8890066 - 09/07/08 08:39 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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You can't see what she is providing? Seriously?
The brokerage buys the tickets from her. It seems like it should be pretty clear what she is providing.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Monger]
#8890078 - 09/07/08 08:43 AM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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well. Morals are all well and good. But as they say,
"Don't knock it till you've tried it."
"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em"
It's not like anyone really needs to go to concerts anyways. I mean, I'm sure they have welfare in Canada. She should get on that too.
also, call her a money grabbing whore five times a day!
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Money can be a destructive thing full stop...no matter how it's made.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: adjust]
#8891083 - 09/07/08 02:01 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Not a very big issue here... for 15k a month who gives. It's just money after all, right?
It's not pointless, because it is lucrative. And I honestly have no idea how this is destructive. It's not like people's lives are being destroyed.
"OMG I can't see this concert, my life is ruined!!" 
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: deranger]
#8891237 - 09/07/08 02:44 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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SyntheticMInd said:
Not a very big issue here... for 15k a month who gives. It's just money after all, right?
It's not pointless, because it is lucrative. And I honestly have no idea how this is destructive. It's not like people's lives are being destroyed.
"OMG I can't see this concert, my life is ruined!!"
yeah but you can see that its not actually a service, its not actually work, and if its not work, its stealing. thats my opinion.
i had the same problem when i worked for dominos. i dont think dominos pizza is healthy food. its bad for people and bad for the planet to have dominos everywhere. most jobs are not neccessary for either survival or happiness, thats the way it seems to me at least, please prove me wrong.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: sleepy]
#8891269 - 09/07/08 02:53 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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She was providing the brokers a service by being a middle man between the ticket distributors and them. If she wasn't providing a service, she wouldn't make money.
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Re: Doing pointless/destructive things for money [Re: Redstorm]
#8891312 - 09/07/08 03:04 PM (2 months, 26 days ago) |
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Perhaps, she's selfish. There's nothing wrong with that. As long as she doesn't feel guilt (caused by her) or shame (caused by others) and she's happy with the money she earns, who cares? I'll tell you what's not providing a service: getting your license renewed. Fuck that! There's no point to it other than to make money.
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