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 "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? 
#8836897 - 08/27/08 06:22 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is just speculation, it has no scientific or experimental basis. However, has anyone ever thought of growing mycelium in a completely inert material (some type of sponge), by passing liquid nutrients through that material as they are depleted. Though i dont know much about the biology of mushrooms, im thinking that perhaps the mycelium could be made to fruit for extended periods of time if the nutrients never run out. Again, just speculation.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8837008 - 08/27/08 06:39 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here's one possible setup: a large cube of sponge is cut so that it fits into a canning jar without compression. it is soaked in a karo liquid culture medium, allowed to drip for a while, then placed in the jar and pressure cooked. an actual liquid culture is then injected into the sponge, which is allowed to colonize as per the PF tek. once fully colonized, the sponge is removed and placed into a wide, sterile dish which can hold about an inch of water. this is then placed into the fruiting chamber. after each flush, more liquid nutrient could be poured into the dish and soaked into the sponge.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8837314 - 08/27/08 07:48 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: drwatson]
#8837366 - 08/27/08 07:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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All the answers you seek are here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php
dude shut the fuck up with the search post.
if you didnt like the topic, click that X up there and get out.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: djblackout]
#8837469 - 08/27/08 08:13 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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The OP even states that he isn't familiar with the biology of mushrooms yet choose the Advanced Forum for this post.
After reading some of the OP's other comments i can clearly see that he's an intelligent guy. I wasn't trying to be an asshole or my response might have looked more like your's.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: drwatson]
#8837503 - 08/27/08 08:19 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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i chose the advanced forum because posting this in the normal cultivation forum would only result in responses from more people who aren't familiar with the biology of mushrooms. Though i am not an advanced mushroom cultivator, i still feel that this topic falls under the category of advanced.
Also a search for "sponge" returns about 2 similar ideas, but not the same. The one similar post did not involve the use of any type of food (obviously that one wasnt going to work) and niether involved inoculation of the sponge inside of a jar.
Edited by mbrown3391 (08/27/08 08:32 PM)
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8837605 - 08/27/08 08:36 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sometimes fruits will form in neglected agar on petri dishes.
You might get a sponge to colonize but I don't see how a continuous fruiting would take place once the mycelium switch to fruiting mode. . .
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: drwatson]
#8837871 - 08/27/08 09:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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You might get a sponge to colonize but I don't see how a continuous fruiting would take place once the mycelium switch to fruiting mode. . .
OMG QFT. GTFO.
you can make any mycelium "switch" to fruiting mode by many different means.
If in fact the sponge did colonize it would be incubated in a warmer temp right? oh i bet you already knew that one didnt you?
So how would we make it pin? Well....we could expose it to cooler temperatures, change the RH, expose it to light to let the fruits know which way to grow.
also it can keep pinning over and over and over as long as it has the right moisture content, no contams...etc.
maybe you should do a search dr watson.
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Edited by djblackout (08/27/08 09:13 PM)
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: djblackout]
#8839772 - 08/28/08 02:48 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have seen nothing but a few aborts on a peice of coconut husk basked in nutes. Nothing to the fruiting stage at the point of a veil break.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: HazeyRoms]
#8839796 - 08/28/08 02:55 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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sorry, but i dont see how that compares to the use of a sponge. Coconut husk is not nearly as porous or absorbent as sponge.
EDIT: or do you mean coco coir?
Edited by mbrown3391 (08/28/08 02:57 AM)
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8839826 - 08/28/08 03:01 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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coco coir is coco husk
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: djblackout]
#8839937 - 08/28/08 03:45 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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im not reading this at all but if u manage to grow a 10gram mushroom hydroponically make sure you collect $100 from RogerRabbit
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: flavoraid]
#8840885 - 08/28/08 12:18 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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flavoraid said:
im not reading this at all but if u manage to grow a 10gram mushroom hydroponically make sure you collect $100 from RogerRabbit
Actually, it's not a C-note, but rather a free microscope. Mushrooms EAT their food, so they don't grow hydro like weed. It's normal for long-time pot growers to think of mushrooms like plants, but their biology is more like humans than plants. I've seen a few fruits form on the top of liquid cultures that have been left for a long time, but such isn't true hydro. If you can feed pure liquid(chemical) nutrients to a sponge and get a true flush of mushrooms, I'll send you a microscope for free.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8841982 - 08/28/08 04:07 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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and alot of universities would pay your college tuition.
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damn i need to get to work on this....
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: agmotes165]
#8842670 - 08/28/08 06:18 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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does mushroom mycelium not thrive in karo?
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8842992 - 08/28/08 07:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn't say they "thrive", they survive. Karo may be ok to start a liquid culture, but it's far from an optimum substrate. Like RR said, cubes "eat" their food. Plants don't actually digest their soil. Plants make their own food (photosynthesis)....cubes have to digest their substrate. So a truely hydroponic system wouldn't work. Does that help?
You could probably rig a system where you had a strong sponge (assuming its material wouldn't be digested) sitting in a nutrient rich solution like they use in cell culture. The sponge would soak up the media till it was full, then would soak up more as the mycelia used it up. I don't know. This sounds like it would just be a headache dealing with contams and the like.....what would be the added benefit, you know?
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I love it when people act like a hardass and try to tell you they have "hydroponic shrooms"
"oh, i didnt think you could grow them hydroponically"
"nah dude you dont kno what ur talkin about these straight fire"
god damn dumbasses.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: large_dose]
#8843075 - 08/28/08 07:36 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah.... It's confusing. Calling them hydroponic mushrooms is just a way of saying they weren't picked from a field. They were instead, grown in a closet. Since closet grown shrooms are usually much more potent, the whole "Hydro marijuana=very potent" meme prevails. I stopped telling people anything. If I hear the hydro shrooms thing, whatever.
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Re: "Hydroponic" Mushrooms? [Re: mbrown3391]
#8843136 - 08/28/08 07:50 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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mbrown3391 said:
Here's one possible setup: a large cube of sponge is cut so that it fits into a canning jar without compression. it is soaked in a karo liquid culture medium, allowed to drip for a while, then placed in the jar and pressure cooked. an actual liquid culture is then injected into the sponge, which is allowed to colonize as per the PF tek. once fully colonized, the sponge is removed and placed into a wide, sterile dish which can hold about an inch of water. this is then placed into the fruiting chamber. after each flush, more liquid nutrient could be poured into the dish and soaked into the sponge.
thats exactly what i was talking about. The mycelium still eats its nutrients, its just in liquid form. the sponge just compares to the vermiculite in PF tek. The bennefit would be the ability to supply endless nutrients.
and mushrooms grown in this way truely would be "hydroponic"
Edit: in order to control contamination, live cultures could be fed to the sponge, such as those described in the recent thread on growng on grain without sterilization.
Edited by mbrown3391 (08/28/08 07:53 PM)
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