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 CidneyIndole
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 Re: Considering Suicide...  [Re: King Koopa]
#8806811 - 08/21/08 04:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
Go ahead.
No offense, but that seemed like a pretty pointless post.
I never said I was going to, or wanted to do that.
People were talking about methods of death, so I threw in my two cents on the topic. I was under the assumption that this is the kind of thing we do on message boards. Converse, and discuss each others' ideas.
What was the point of posting that?
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 King Koopa
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The point was, if you want to put a bullet in your head then do it. If you want to fuck a cow then do it.
And about the emotion and decision bullshit, it's uuuuuuhhhh bullshit. Emotion is going to be there if you want it to be there. I've thought about killing myself, but PURE decision told be I didn't want my family or friends to go through the EMOTIONS of their companion suffering.
There isn't such thing as a suicidal person.
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aDoS
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Re: Considering Suicide... [Re: King Koopa]
#8809998 - 08/22/08 07:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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King Koopa said:
There isn't such thing as a suicidal person.
tell that to the city of Seattle lol.
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highdroponics
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Anonymous said:
What I am wondering is this:
Can it ever be a logic-based choice to kill yourself... to plan, or consider killing yourself?
Let's get something straight. I am not asking if it's a good idea to off myself, or if suicide is a good idea in general. If you respond only based on that assumption about my question, you're way off topic.
This is not a cry for help, but an inquiry.
I want to know what people think of this... if you believe that suicide is always impulsive, or always based on mainly emotion... or if you think that a person can detach themselves, and make a "clear-headed" decision, that they no longer want to live.
I'd love to hear what people think of this.
well i have considered by the time i am 70 or so i may kill myself because i don't see life worth living when stuck in a chair all the time, but who knows, i may be very healthy at that age. if i am still able to ride a bike, run, etc. then i will continue life, as soon as i am no longer able to do these things i will commit suicide.
dunno if thats what you mean about making a clear logical choice of suicide, but i think it is a very clear and logical thought.
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Re: Considering Suicide... [Re: King Koopa]
#15958609 - 03/17/12 05:55 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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well I am an engineer by profession but all my life, i have beeen in real pain..I never could do what I wanted to,never was happy.For last 7 years, i havebeen avoiding the idea of suicide just not hurt my parents n loved ones but I can't take it anymore.
I used to love a girl n she got fucked by my best friend.Now they both make fun of me.No matter how hard i try,i cant forget her.She got pregnant n came to me to accept her.I did.
But still today,she loves that bastard.But she is the only one I can talk to or get emotionally involved.I have trouble talking to anyone,even my parent.My life is complete shit.Infact, I ma unable to expalin my pain here also,i dont know why....pls help me...tell me what to do.
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DoDahDay
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I believe, suicide, in the true sense, is a cowardly and selfish act with little thought of consequence or respect for others. Now when I say in the true sense, I mean shotting yourself or jumping off a bridge or something of the like. There are many examples of monks that die during meditation or prepare for their death. I dont know where but I have seen a documentary of a man who went into the hills to perform an unusual form of meditation where when one no longer can hold the posture, they choke to death. Due to the environment, he has been permanently mummified in the same position he was in many years ago. Another instance was of a monk that planned his demiss and ate wood to keep his body from breaking itself down and is still enshrined to this day in his original posture. I believe he actually buried himself alive. Of course, he has been placed in a controlled box to keep him from succoming to molds. These deserved great amounts of respect due to the fact that one was performed to make his crop fruitful and he gave his life in an effort to help many many others that he did not know or were of blood( first one) and the others great deal of dedication in preparation in knowing when he was going to die( second). The movie about that emily rose (not the girls real name) is another example of someone anticipating their death-kind of suicide, more insanity.
I think that the only form of "suicide" that is respectable( other than the ones mentioned above) would be starvation. Even then, they must have a clear mind set for me not to think of you as a coward or a selfish bullying. But, still, these are hard to define as suicide. If your mind is still and your goal is to the betterment of many, I cant call this suicide.
As for anon #2, you have created your own problem, but, for some reason, you refuse to let go of your own private ends. You must dissolve yourself and see what is truely important, nothing. Those two hurt you because of your preconcieved plan that you could not fulfill. These words are not meant to be offensive but to offer a third eye.
Meditation and following The Tao is the two most important things I have done. Remove money from you life, grow your own foods, change your diet, dont fight anything . You are living a life that others want you to live or you THINK you should live. Why not just be happy with what you have...or dont have. Meditation will help with this. When you think non thinking and get closer to the point of non-ado, all things will make sense. Psychedelics are great tools but can actually aggravate things if not taken properly. Hence the reason the above mentioned came first. You must give up what you have taught yourself and let go. If you are truely one that no longer believes there is a purpose for yourself, then stop consuming what keeps you alive- food and water. Feel the pain of your body breaking itself down while you are still able to feel. Do not be a coward, but I suggest you do the above first and not rely on what you have taught yourself. Un learn your learning. I doubt you will be so miserable afterwards.
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drkkenny
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Re: Considering Suicide... [Re: DoDahDay]
#15961055 - 03/17/12 07:16 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yes, suicide is the most logical way to end your life if you're suffering, there should be suicide clinics to aid others in this.
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I see a glass that's twice as big as it needs to be.”
- George Carlin
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― Henry Miller, Tropic of Cancer
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Larrythescaryrex
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Re: Considering Suicide... [Re: drkkenny]
#15961653 - 03/17/12 09:34 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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I have chronic back pain, I never EVER sleep, I have exreme panic and depression, and everyone that should have ever loved or tried to help me just fucked me over instead.
I'm not sure why I haven't killed myself yet.
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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
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circastes
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If you're having trouble living a life in this society there are two possibilities: the society has no respectable lifestyles to offer and no one is aware of it, or living a life is not for you and perhaps you should look within for what you want and then find portions of a life like partying and cinemas etc. to fit into your happiness. Don't try and fit your happiness into these things.
What is a life but a long, drawn-out seeking?
Maladjustment in this age is a sign of positive quality(ies) in yourself. Notice how it's all going down the gurgler? 
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DourSiezel
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Re: Considering Suicide... [Re: circastes]
#15962645 - 03/18/12 07:26 AM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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It would probably shorten their lives because of the grief they would go through...
Everyone dies!
I personally don't have the balls to do it myself, that's why if I were to attempt a suicide I would go the microbiology route. I wouldn't mind getting really sick and off that way.
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CidneyIndole said:
But I do think that lots of suicides are impulsive.
Life is impulse.
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DourSiezel
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The universe is impulsive.
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