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Fuiting Hormone?
    #8816059 - 08/23/08 02:43 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

I have no knowledge of the process that causes mycelia to fruit, but i know that in plants, certain chemical hormones can be used to induce fruiting. Does anyone know if such a thing exists for mushrooms?


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Re: Fuiting Hormone? [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8817689 - 08/23/08 08:31 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

After a little research i found some studies which list 10-oxo-trans-8-decenoic acid as a fruiting/growth hormone in certain mushroom species. I don't know if it would work for any of the psychoactive species. Does anyone have any further information on this chemical, also know as ODA?


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Re: Fuiting Hormone? [Re: mbrown3391]
    #8834593 - 08/27/08 07:33 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

What mushroom species would that be?


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Re: Fuiting Hormone? [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #8835735 - 08/27/08 12:30 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

Here's one on P. eryngii
http://web2.nmns.edu.tw/TFungi/english/data_all/english_pdf/abstract/english_abstract1712/english_abstract1712-1.pdf

Sadly, just an abstract- though I'm sure it could be found.

Here's one for A. bisporus
http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail&origin=ibids_references&therow=436393

Again, just an abstract.

Here's one for T. versicolor (Coriolus), Shitake and Enokitake:
http://web2.nmns.edu.tw/TFungi/english/data_all/english_pdf/abstract/english_abstract1634/english_abstract1634-1.pdf

....abstract.

I'm sure it has broad application using similar parameters for all of them.  But, if you're really interested, try picking up a few of these articles and reading through them.

Post anything interesting!


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Re: Fuiting Hormone? [Re: MycoAu]
    #8855703 - 08/31/08 11:11 AM (3 months, 2 days ago)

There appears to be very little research on this subject, and on the subject of fungal fruiting body formation in general, especially when compared to what is known of plant and animal development. I can find only a handful of articles, such as Studies on the morphogenesis of Agaricus bisporus: the dilemma of normal versus abnormal fruit body development (Mycological Research, 1999 link).

There are at least three questions here: 1. How do separate mycelia in soil (or whatever) communicate with each other  and come together to form a primordium? 2. How does the primordium differentiate into different tissues arranged in a particular pattern? 3. What induces the primordium to grow into a mushroom?

Partial answers to these questions are available, or at least have been proposed, for some fungi, but from skimming the literature for a few years now it seems to me that less is known about mushroom development now than was known about animal development in 1890. Considering their phylogenetic position, one might consider using animal rather than plant development as a starting point for studying mushrooms. What happens, for example, when primordia are treated with retinoic acid?

All of this is amateur armchair mycology, and for all I know I'm making a fool of myself to any real myclogists reading this. I don't mind. I think about questions like this constantly when hunting for mushrooms, and find them so fascinating that I'm seriously considering returning to school to study mycology.

Edited to fix link


Edited by Hematite (08/31/08 11:17 AM)


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