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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: fapjack]
    #8776438 - 08/15/08 04:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

> however certain codeine preparations were available OTC in the US for quite some time (after being scheduled)

Really?  I can't find anything to back this up, but also can't find anything to refute it.


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: Seuss]
    #8776593 - 08/15/08 06:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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> however certain codeine preparations were available OTC in the US for quite some time (after being scheduled)

Really?  I can't find anything to back this up, but also can't find anything to refute it.




I swear read something along those lines too and can't remember what exactly the situation was.


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #8776671 - 08/15/08 07:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Schedule V codeine syrups may be dispensed by licensed pharmacists in some states without prescription.


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Federal Schedule V
Any compound, mixture, or preparation containing any of the following limited quantities of narcotic drugs, which shall include one or more nonnarcotic active medicinal ingredients in sufficient proportion to confer upon the compound, mixture, or preparation valuable medicinal qualities other than those possessed by the narcotic drug alone:
(1) Not more than 200 milligrams of codeine per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams.
(2) Not more than 100 milligrams of dihydrocodeine per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams.
(3) Not more than 100 milligrams of ethylmorphine per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams.
(4) Not more than 2.5 milligrams of diphenoxylate and not less than 25 micrograms of atropine sulfate per dosage unit.
(5) Not more than 100 milligrams of opium per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams.




Informative link from poppies.org


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: Seuss]
    #8776747 - 08/15/08 07:48 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I'm probably gonna have to call the FDA up for that one to get a link, as they are much more helpful than the DEA.  I'll do it when I get back from festie if I remember.


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: fapjack]
    #8776865 - 08/15/08 08:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

NC currently allows the sale of schedule V substances by pharmacist without prescription.

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ยง 90‑93.  Schedule V controlled substances.

(b)      A Schedule V substance may be sold at retail without a prescription only by a registered pharmacist and no other person, agent or employee may sell a Schedule V substance even if under the direct supervision of a pharmacist.




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(1)      Any compound, mixture or preparation containing any of the following limited quantities of narcotic drugs or salts thereof, which shall include one or more nonnarcotic active medicinal ingredients in sufficient proportion to confer upon the compound, mixture, or preparation valuable medicinal qualities other than those possessed by the narcotic alone:

a.        Not more than 200 milligrams of codeine or any of its salts per 100 milliliters or per 100 grams.






http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_90/GS_90-93.html


Like I said this is a state issue.


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8777012 - 08/15/08 09:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

> Like I said this is a state issue.

All drug restrictions/regulations should be a state issue, but that is a different topic.

> Schedule V codeine syrups may be dispensed by licensed pharmacists in some states without prescription.

I learned something new today.  Thanks.  :smile:


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: Seuss]
    #8780748 - 08/16/08 01:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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> Schedule V codeine syrups may be dispensed by licensed pharmacists in some states without prescription.

I learned something new today.  Thanks.  :smile:




I don't think this is true.  While true, I believe, under federal law, no state has such a provision and thus it is illegal under both state and federal law, as it is a violation of federal law to unlawfully sell drugs, even if it is only violating a state law.

Kinda like how the feds can prosecute you for owning a firearm only illegal under state law, but not under the federal law.  The feds have catch all laws in many areas that prohibit violations of state laws.

They like to be able to get you for anything they want.  But don't worry, they have this great power cuz they are competent to make great decisions.


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: johnm214]
    #8781251 - 08/16/08 06:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
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Seuss said:


> Schedule V codeine syrups may be dispensed by licensed pharmacists in some states without prescription.

I learned something new today.  Thanks.  :smile:




I don't think this is true.  While true, I believe, under federal law, no state has such a provision and thus it is illegal under both state and federal law, as it is a violation of federal law to unlawfully sell drugs, even if it is only violating a state law.

Kinda like how the feds can prosecute you for owning a firearm only illegal under state law, but not under the federal law.  The feds have catch all laws in many areas that prohibit violations of state laws.

They like to be able to get you for anything they want.  But don't worry, they have this great power cuz they are competent to make great decisions.




The reason I believe C-V mixtures are allowed under Federal law is the control measures for each schedule:

Schedule II: Prescription only, oral Rx is allowed for 30 days worth of medication, no refills.

Schedule III: Prescription only, may be refilled 5 times within 6 months.

Schedule IV: Prescription only, may be refilled 5 times within 6 months.

Schedule V: Dispensed only for medical purpose.

No mention of prescription in the federal control of scheduled substances schedule V:shrug:


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Re: Westchester lawmakers approve bill restricting sale of DXM cough medicines to minors [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8781559 - 08/16/08 08:42 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

no I agree, I read the law somewhere that said codeine preperations can be dispensed at schedule 5 under us code

all I was saying is that 'i think' that there are no states that allow this, and thus it is more of a theoretical possibility that no state has allowed.


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