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 KidgardFromSRQ
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 Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning 
#8729773 - 08/05/08 03:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So, about a month ago I ate the wrong one. I know, I know. I broke the number one rule: when in doubt, throw it out. I've grown psilocybe cubensis before, infact for about 4 monthes straight all I did was trip like 2 or 3 times a week. Which was a lot for my fragile adolescent mind at the time (I'm an adult now so booyah!). Not to mention I'd eaten field shrooms countless times and spent hours on end lurking this website. Countless nights were spent looking at diffrent specieis of mushrooms and reading my giant encyclopedia of mushrooms. Yet, I still made the mistake of eating a Chlorphyllum Molbydites.
Now, I've tripped atleast 30 times on mushies if I had to throw a given number on it. But these mushrooms looked just like P. Cubensis to me. I did have a doubt in my mind that they weren't because the features weren't EXACTLY the same as most the other cubes I'd eaten, but they still looked cubensis like. Anyways. I'm sure most of you know the symptoms of Chlorophyllum Molbydites poisoning, so I won't tell you about the agony I went through in the ER. Without further delay, here are some pictures that I hope you all will enjoy and possibly even be able to identify for me.
We ate these:
If someone could identify these for me, I'd be grateful too. I'm sure they're some kind of Panaelous species.
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self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms don't get along
self righteous me so wrong
you can see that we don't have to get along
self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms do not agree
and we will crawl
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hellion_2008
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 Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8729840 - 08/05/08 03:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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were the poisioning ones you ate, the upper most pictures? im new to this and i have found similiar ones and were wondering if they were any good?
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 weiliiiiiii
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: hellion_2008]
#8729866 - 08/05/08 03:37 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The ones on top are green gills and i bet you pissed out your ass didnt you? Ive heard the runs from those can be horrible, i hope you learned your lesson cuz if it had been something else you could have been dead. The bottom ones look like Pan. antillarum-not active.
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8729886 - 08/05/08 03:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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The top ones are called chloroform molybdites, or green gills and i know you know by now they are poisonous.
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El Zorro
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8729913 - 08/05/08 03:49 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I disagree with the first ones being green gills.
Unless there is more than one species there.
I see no veil ring on the stems. The caps are too smooth. And the gills are very dark. Although I have seen some dark gilled molybdites. The smooth cap and lack of ring suggests something else. To me anyway.
Edit:
I think there may be two species there. Some do look like green gills, but the two mushrooms in the foreground of pic #2 are throwing me off.
Edited by El Zorro (08/05/08 04:34 PM)
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: El Zorro]
#8730116 - 08/05/08 04:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nope. They were Molbydites. They were not Green gilled at all. In fact, they were chocolate brown to black. One of them did however have green on it, and I knew that meant poison the whole time. I still at it anyways, lol. What a dumb ass I was. But it looked unlike a molbydites, so I took a chance. VERY bad idea.
To answer your question Weiliiiii, yes - I did piss out my ass, LOL. I was in the emergency room and had to run to the bathroom every 10 minutes for like an hour. It came out like a shotgun and I sprayed the walls and everything (unintentionally of course). By far the WORST bowel movement I've had in my entire life... except this one time I bout shit a soup can. But that's a different story. This whole experience reopened my ulcer for a short period of time, gave me internal hemorrhaging, made me puke stomach acid non stop, blood, and gave me convulsions. It was absolutely horrible.
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self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms don't get along
self righteous me so wrong
you can see that we don't have to get along
self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms do not agree
and we will crawl
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psilophile82
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8730579 - 08/05/08 06:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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KidgardFromSRQ said:
Nope. They were Molbydites. They were not Green gilled at all. In fact, they were chocolate brown to black. One of them did however have green on it, and I knew that meant poison the whole time. I still at it anyways, lol. What a dumb ass I was. But it looked unlike a molbydites, so I took a chance. VERY bad idea.
To answer your question Weiliiiii, yes - I did piss out my ass, LOL. I was in the emergency room and had to run to the bathroom every 10 minutes for like an hour. It came out like a shotgun and I sprayed the walls and everything (unintentionally of course). By far the WORST bowel movement I've had in my entire life... except this one time I bout shit a soup can. But that's a different story. This whole experience reopened my ulcer for a short period of time, gave me internal hemorrhaging, made me puke stomach acid non stop, blood, and gave me convulsions. It was absolutely horrible.
molybdites are green gilled, but as they age they turn dark brown and the cap fragments fade and wash off. Those are def. "green gills" just super old ones. I have large patches them everywhere in my yard and I watch the life cycle all the time the gills go from white to greenish to dark brown with age. As for the pans, I agree with weillii, but gill shots and spore prints would further aid I.D> peace
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: psilophile82]
#8731073 - 08/05/08 07:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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why would you even want to eat mushrooms that looked that disgusting
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N2loma
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8731283 - 08/05/08 08:44 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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weiliiiiiii said:
why would you even want to eat mushrooms that looked that disgusting
True, the recent "fad" in Green Gill consumption is most puzzling...They don't look like any active or particularly good edible species...
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psilophile82
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: N2loma]
#8732616 - 08/06/08 06:53 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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N2loma said:
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weiliiiiiii said:
why would you even want to eat mushrooms that looked that disgusting
True, the recent "fad" in Green Gill consumption is most puzzling...They don't look like any active or particularly good edible species...
these damn whippersnappers.......
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Purple_spore
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: El Zorro]
#8733025 - 08/06/08 09:29 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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El Zorro said:
I see no veil ring on the stems. The caps are too smooth. And the gills are very dark. Although I have seen some dark gilled molybdites. The smooth cap and lack of ring suggests something else. To me anyway.
I see a very distinct veil on a number of specimens. The stem was my first flag they don't blue at all and kind of turn transparent with the moisture and age as you can see. And of course they are not really white or have any signs of bluing. Are you sure you grew Cubensis and not something else because your identification skills suck. I bet The mycelium looks nothing like each-other did you ever look at that?
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El Zorro
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8733132 - 08/06/08 09:56 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Edit
Now that I scroll the pic to the side I do see some with the veils.
But I still think there are two species there
Edited by El Zorro (08/06/08 10:04 AM)
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: Purple_spore]
#8733253 - 08/06/08 10:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Purple_spore said:
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El Zorro said:
I see no veil ring on the stems. The caps are too smooth. And the gills are very dark. Although I have seen some dark gilled molybdites. The smooth cap and lack of ring suggests something else. To me anyway.
I see a very distinct veil on a number of specimens. The stem was my first flag they don't blue at all and kind of turn transparent with the moisture and age as you can see. And of course they are not really white or have any signs of bluing. Are you sure you grew Cubensis and not something else because your identification skills suck. I bet The mycelium looks nothing like each-other did you ever look at that?
Yep. I did PF-Tek with like five different strains (orissas, ecqudorians, transkei, mexi-cubes, and thai ko samui super strain). I even started a few from liquid culture I've seen a lot of cubes. When I used tog o picking, I'd get ones that were quiet similar. As for the mycellium, I didn't see it because I went at night. As for the bluing, I know the saying - if it's not blue, it's not true. But I've had cubes bruise really dark, not blue at all. Even somewhat blackish. On some of them, the stems were black so it was another contributing factor. The whole time I had a strong suspicion that they weren't cubes in the back of my head, but I think my carelessness and love of the trip got the better of me. Like I said, I broke the number one rule: "When in doubt, throw it out."
A person on deviantart commented on one of my pictures after I told the story, too. I'll quote him since I liked his comment:
"There are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters."
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self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms don't get along
self righteous me so wrong
you can see that we don't have to get along
self pity me so pitiful
you can see that birds and worms do not agree
and we will crawl
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hooksbooks
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8734961 - 08/06/08 04:06 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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way to rip out those shrooms and destroy the myc network, no noone will be able to have their go at ol' green gills.
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therapture
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Re: Some finds, ID Requests, and my very first poisoning [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
#8735480 - 08/06/08 05:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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KidgardFromSRQ said:
Nope. They were Molbydites. They were not Green gilled at all. In fact, they were chocolate brown to black. One of them did however have green on it, and I knew that meant poison the whole time. I still at it anyways, lol. What a dumb ass I was. But it looked unlike a molbydites, so I took a chance. VERY bad idea.
I have found and spore printed several of those nasty fuckers on purpose. I have found that the "green gills" moniker is more because of the spore print being very distinctively "bright green". When perfectly developed, they are beautiful, though.
I STILL spore print my cubes....I am taking no chances.
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There is nothing but the truth...we are born and we die. Tune up your chips and circuits, you're going to live longer! -Electric Universe "Tune Up"
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