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Cannabischarlie said:
a lot of animals, cats especially will love to get high, but shrooms are going to make them think "WTF?"

getting stoned is much more mundane to all animals.

cows however are notorious for eating shrooms.

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therapture said:
Most dumbasses don't use them...they tend to the lame crap like coke, speed, and alcohol, while deeper minds tend towards hallucinogenic and psychedelic usage patterns.

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I think that's a pretentious load of BS.  Most of the people who I've known to use hallucinogens are largely not too bright.  Most of the intelligent people I've known have never used hallucinogens.  I do know a number of intelligent hallucinogen users, but I think it's arrogant to claim that "deeper minds" tend towards hallucinogens.

In Karl Jansen's _Ketamine: Dreams and Realities_ he hints at this by noting that people who tend to dissociatives tend to be more intelligent.  I have little doubt that if I said that dissociative (for example, DXM) users were generally highly intelligent people that people around here would fiercely disagree.

I suspect you have a bit of a bias towards hallucinogen users. . . (for some reason)

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I find that most regular hallucinogenic users are intelligent, well adjusted, happy with themselves people that have good jobs and good family life.

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Most hallucinogen users or most that you know of?  Like I say above, I see it from a completely opposite perspective.  The vast majority of people I've known over the last 15 years who got involved in using hallucinogenic drugs are largely unhappy with the choices they made in their lives and unhappy with their lives.

Given that you and I don't come anywhere close to knowing "most (regular) hallucinogen users", the difference in our point of view suggests that depending on one's niche (including social, economic, and cultural factors; age, occupation, etc.), the details of hallucinogenic drug users' lives vary.

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We tend to lead a double life, kind of...because society is fucked up about the real deal with these substances, and we have to protect ourselves.

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Speak for yourself.  Most people I know take me seriously, so I'm not afraid to reveal to the people around my (friends, family and coworkers) that I have (and often do) use a lot of drugs, including hallucinogens.  I might not say that out loud during a job interview, but when I tell most people, I can see that of all people they wouldn't have expected me to be a drug user.

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