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    #8670101 - 07/23/08 12:36 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

there are too many threads on this board about 2012..and all of them seem to be missing an obvious point ..that whatever does happen in 2012 will necessarily tie in to the result of the 2008 elections...

OT1H..it is easy to imagine a 2012 apocalypse  if mccain is elected (and there are these "left behind" nutfruits who will vote to make it happen)...OTOH..it is less clear what an obama victory would mean in terms of the 2012 prophecy...

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Re: 2008... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #8670127 - 07/23/08 12:46 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

Seeing how Obama would raise taxes that would kill the hard working individuals? Im not voting for either.  Libertarianism FTW!


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    #8670181 - 07/23/08 01:19 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

well.. from my understanding, i remember hearing that nobody knows the exact time of arrmageddon not even god's angels but only the true lord does. n to add another thing, i think its possible that something big will happen in 2012, god only knows what. i heard that its the time to travel subconsiously through out the universe and or thought and inventions and all unimportant emotions cease to exist. things like greed for money, hate.. ect..  but one last thing.. if it could possibly be the end of all time on this planet as we know it in 2012, i wish it was in my opinion for many reasons, i recall hearing that the destruction stages start 3 and one half years before the actual day of the end of the world. the first phase of the first trumpet thats blown by the lord's angels and so on.. so if this is true and its the end of time in 2012. that means that the first phase could start anywhere from this exact moment to june 30th of 2009 in order for it to be in 2012 when everybody thinks its supposed to happen.. any clues now in our average daily life to hint that the world is supposed to end soon? i really hope so.. oh ya and one last thing i have just thought of.. if anybody has ever heard of the seven seals.. for that sake, supposedly we have already broke all but the last one. and if the last one is broken then the world will end shortly after that. my prediction is that the day obama steps in office exactly three and one half years after that very day, the world will cease. If obama steps in office, that breaks the last seal in my opinion. but who knows, it could happen, it could never happen. i really wish it would though.. just my two cents that i know.. enjoy!


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Re: 2008... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #8670897 - 07/23/08 08:52 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

2012 may just simply be a natural phenomenon, and there is nothing a president could do about it.

Like the moon affects the tides.. something to that effect.


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Re: 2008... [Re: tripp23]
    #8670980 - 07/23/08 09:27 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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tripp23 said:
well.. from my understanding, i remember hearing that nobody knows the exact time of arrmageddon not even god's angels but only the true lord does. n to add another thing, i think its possible that something big will happen in 2012, god only knows what. i heard that its the time to travel subconsiously through out the universe and or thought and inventions and all unimportant emotions cease to exist. things like greed for money, hate.. ect..  but one last thing.. if it could possibly be the end of all time on this planet as we know it in 2012, i wish it was in my opinion for many reasons, i recall hearing that the destruction stages start 3 and one half years before the actual day of the end of the world. the first phase of the first trumpet thats blown by the lord's angels and so on.. so if this is true and its the end of time in 2012. that means that the first phase could start anywhere from this exact moment to june 30th of 2009 in order for it to be in 2012 when everybody thinks its supposed to happen.. any clues now in our average daily life to hint that the world is supposed to end soon? i really hope so.. oh ya and one last thing i have just thought of.. if anybody has ever heard of the seven seals.. for that sake, supposedly we have already broke all but the last one. and if the last one is broken then the world will end shortly after that. my prediction is that the day obama steps in office exactly three and one half years after that very day, the world will cease. If obama steps in office, that breaks the last seal in my opinion. but who knows, it could happen, it could never happen. i really wish it would though.. just my two cents that i know.. enjoy!




my hunch is that the end date of 2012.12.21 is more statistical rather than exact...however..that time frame falls very clearly into focus given what mccain has in mind.. especially if you want to combine the 42 months from the book of revelations with the mayan prophecy...

but however deranged and evil mccain might be..he still doesnt fit the "damien thorne" stereotype of an antichrist.. and obama definitely doesnt...mitt romney..OTOH..comes much closer to that billing..and stands a very good chance of carrying through should he be on the repugnican ticket...

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2012 may just simply be a natural phenomenon, and there is nothing a president could do about it.

Like the moon affects the tides.. something to that effect.




the POTUS cant stop the tide from coming in..but (s)he can decide whether to allocate funds to build a levee or to bomb iran instead...but unlike the tide..im more inclined to agree with the xtians that its not possible to pin such an exact date on the events some ppl are predicting for the end date...



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Edited by Annapurna1 (07/23/08 09:43 AM)


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Re: 2008... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #8671129 - 07/23/08 10:25 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

I agree with you. I do prefer to speculate that we will not experience an exact date at all and that the catalyzing event, whatever it may be, will be felt as a gradual unfolding of transitional nature and many of us may not even put our minds around what has happened until some time later down the road when we update our history books and can look back into the past and view the planetary events through a much broader lens.

As for the POTUS, I don't believe he ever truly decides anything. :eyeball:


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Re: 2008... [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8672519 - 07/23/08 03:55 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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whatever it may be, will be felt as a gradual unfolding of transitional nature and many of us may not even put our minds around what has happened until some time later down the road




Keep a lookout for "global dimming" in the media soon....    :wink:
It is supposedly offsetting the results that we should be seeing with global warming...


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    #8672926 - 07/23/08 05:52 PM (2 months, 17 days ago)

i just bought this book

i'll tell you guys if we're gonna die. :lol:


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Re: 2008... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #8674917 - 07/24/08 01:56 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

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tripp23 said:
well.. from my understanding, i remember hearing that nobody knows the exact time of arrmageddon not even god's angels but only the true lord does. n to add another thing, i think its possible that something big will happen in 2012, god only knows what. i heard that its the time to travel subconsiously through out the universe and or thought and inventions and all unimportant emotions cease to exist. things like greed for money, hate.. ect..  but one last thing.. if it could possibly be the end of all time on this planet as we know it in 2012, i wish it was in my opinion for many reasons, i recall hearing that the destruction stages start 3 and one half years before the actual day of the end of the world. the first phase of the first trumpet thats blown by the lord's angels and so on.. so if this is true and its the end of time in 2012. that means that the first phase could start anywhere from this exact moment to june 30th of 2009 in order for it to be in 2012 when everybody thinks its supposed to happen.. any clues now in our average daily life to hint that the world is supposed to end soon? i really hope so.. oh ya and one last thing i have just thought of.. if anybody has ever heard of the seven seals.. for that sake, supposedly we have already broke all but the last one. and if the last one is broken then the world will end shortly after that. my prediction is that the day obama steps in office exactly three and one half years after that very day, the world will cease. If obama steps in office, that breaks the last seal in my opinion. but who knows, it could happen, it could never happen. i really wish it would though.. just my two cents that i know.. enjoy!




my hunch is that the end date of 2012.12.21 is more statistical rather than exact...however..that time frame falls very clearly into focus given what mccain has in mind.. especially if you want to combine the 42 months from the book of revelations with the mayan prophecy...

but however deranged and evil mccain might be..he still doesnt fit the "damien thorne" stereotype of an antichrist.. and obama definitely doesnt...mitt romney..OTOH..comes much closer to that billing..and stands a very good chance of carrying through should he be on the repugnican ticket...

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AlteredAgain said:
2012 may just simply be a natural phenomenon, and there is nothing a president could do about it.

Like the moon affects the tides.. something to that effect.




the POTUS cant stop the tide from coming in..but (s)he can decide whether to allocate funds to build a levee or to bomb iran instead...but unlike the tide..im more inclined to agree with the xtians that its not possible to pin such an exact date on the events some ppl are predicting for the end date...






yes but you dont know these people. you know barely anything about them. once they get into a substantal power such as president. their thoughts could immedately change. anybody could start the end, the just need to know how!


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Re: 2008... [Re: tripp23]
    #8676106 - 07/24/08 11:59 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

i dont know them personally..but it would be ludicrous to suggest that mccain or romney could reverse their position should they become POTUS...

obama..as you point out..remains a relatively unknown quantity..but the known quantities have proven to be the worst possible alternatives...


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Re: 2008... [Re: Annapurna1]
    #8676489 - 07/24/08 02:04 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Obama could very well be the antichrist.  Everyone is looking at him to change everything, the saviour. 

He's all of a sudden very very much in favor of increasing troops in Afghanistan.  Moving troops out of Iraq and into Afghanistan could still be identified as pulling the troops out of Iraq.  :smile:


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Re: 2008... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #8676970 - 07/24/08 04:10 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

unlike mccain..who wants to bomb..bomb..bomb..bomb..bomb iran...


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    #8677235 - 07/24/08 05:29 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

Putting more troops into Afghanistan is easier than bombing Iran.  Public support-wise I mean.

Everyone knows that politicians pretty much reverse what they said on teh campaign trail once in office, what could McCain possibly reverse himself on that would still take us down the path to utter humanity destruction?  :smile:


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Re: 2008... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #8677299 - 07/24/08 05:48 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

im sure mccain will go back on some things he said in order to pander to swing voters..but definitely not on the core neocon agenda...at this point in time..however..this discussion is moot..since mccain has FAIP already won the POTUS..which means that the mayans were right...


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    #8677720 - 07/24/08 08:19 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I think it would be supremely ironic if the man who wanted to bring about "change" was the one that Revelations predicted and helped catalyze the end of this age/world/whatever.

Think about it.  I think the cosmos thrives on irony.


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Re: 2008... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #8677744 - 07/24/08 08:26 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

that would definitely qualify as bringing about "change".. but thats still a bit of a reach to suggest thats what obama had in mind...in either case..to repeat ..we wont get a chance to find out...


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    #8677953 - 07/24/08 09:09 PM (2 months, 16 days ago)

I don't think he has any idea...


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