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Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada
    #8672417 - 07/23/08 03:37 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Hey guys, I was thinking about starting up a garden of legal Psychoactive plants and was hoping people with little more experience could give me a hand
There is another thread that discusses this

but its from a fairly long while ago and wasnt sure if some of the plants listed had been illegalized since the list was made

If the thread gets some replies and stuff I will make a list of plants submitted to the thread in this first post

Thanks for the help

Please note that unless the poster indicates the plant is Illegal in Canada or the US or a certain state but is legal in Canada or the US
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-lophophora williamsii: legal in canada, illegal in the US


I assume that it is legal in both Canada and the US and label it accordingly
Before you go out and obtain one of these plants you should do some homework to double check and make sure you are in the clear ^^

List of Legal Psychoactive Plants:

-lophophora williamsii: legal in canada, illegal in the US
-lophophora diffusa: legal in both the US and canada
-Trichocereus peruvianus: Legal in both the US and Canada
-Trichocereus pachanoi: Legal in both the US and Canada
-salvia divinorum: Legal in Canada and the US depending on which state you live in.
-Kratom: Legal in both Canada and the US
-Amanita muscaria mushrooms: Legal in both Canada and the US
-syrian rue seeds: Legal in both Canada and the US
-mimosa hostillis rootbark: Legal in both Canada and the US
-wild dagga: Legal in both Canada and the US
-lions tail: Legal in both Canada and the US
-skullcap: Legal in both Canada and the US
-damiana: Legal in both Canada and the US
-calea zachetachichi (dream herb): Legal in both Canada and the US
-white lotus: Legal in both Canada and the US
-blue lotus: Legal in both Canada and the US
-sacred blue lilly: Legal in both Canada and the US
-opium poppies: Legal in both Canada and the US as ornimental flowers.
-prickly poppy: Legal in both Canada and the US as ornimental flowers.
-cebil seeds: Legal in both Canada and the US
-passion flower: Legal in both Canada and the US
-kanna: Legal in both Canada and the US
-iboga: Legal in Canada, Illegal in the US
-sinuichi: Legal in both Canada and the US
-yopo: Legal in both Canada and the US
-kava: Legal in the US and Maybe Canada
-yohimbe: Legal in both Canada and the US
-calamus root: Legal in both Canada and the US
-betel nut: Legal in both Canada and the US
-Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds: Legal in both Canada and the US
-morning glory seeds: Legal in both Canada and the US
-sida cordifolia: Legal in both Canada and the US
-ephedra: Legal in both Canada and the US
-guarana: Legal in both Canada and the US
-kola nut: Legal in both Canada and the US
-yerba mate: Legal in both Canada and the US
-guayasa: Legal in both Canada and the US
-b. caapi: Legal in both Canada and the US
-catuaba: Legal in both Canada and the US
-iporuru: Legal in both Canada and the US
-lagochilus: Legal in both Canada and the US
-mulungu: Legal in both Canada and the US
-pedicularis densiflora aswell as many other psychoactive pedicularis varieties: Legal in both Canada and the US
-rivea corymbosa: Legal in both Canada and the US
-scotch broom: Legal in both Canada and the US
-sinicuichi: Legal in both Canada and the US
-wild lettuce: Legal in both Canada and the US
-Voacanga: Legal in both Canada and the US
-wormwood: Legal in both Canada and the US
-Nicotiana glauca: Legal in both Canada and the US
-nicotiana rustica: Legal in both Canada and the US
-Cyperus articulatus: Legal in both Canada and the US
-velvet bean: Legal in both Canada and the US

Here is a list of psychoactive plants that are potentially deadly. These are probobly NOT plants that you want to mess around with.

-belladonna: Legal in both Canada and the US
-datura: Legal in both Canada and the US
-deadly nightshade: Legal in both Canada and the US
-hemlock: Legal in both Canada and the US
-mandrake: Legal in both Canada and the US
-brugmansia: Legal in both Canada and the US

Special thanks to Lusid and Neon for submitting such large lists of plants for the thread =]


Edited by fridaynights (07/27/08 11:50 PM)

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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8672584 - 07/23/08 04:11 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

How about a list of illegal ones. Its much shorter. All ya gotta do is go to the DEA website.

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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8672590 - 07/23/08 04:13 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

well the list would be different depending on if it was for canada or the US... so which?


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: uarewotueat]
    #8672728 - 07/23/08 04:44 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Well, I was thinking I would put notes next to the name of the plant indicating weither they are legal in canada or the US or both

Im primarily concerned about Canadian ones given that I live in canada but I think this would be rather helpful to Americans aswell so ... yea ;D


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: ethnoguy]
    #8674302 - 07/23/08 11:21 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

I think he means the intersection of "legal" and "psychoactive", rather than the set of all legal plants.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: timmeh_87]
    #8675023 - 07/24/08 02:39 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

ok i'll kick you off then...

lophophora williamsii: legal in canada, illegal in the US
lophophora diffusa: legal in both the US and canada.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: uarewotueat]
    #8675054 - 07/24/08 02:55 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Trichocereus peruvianus,
Trichocereus pachanoi

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salvia divinorum depending on which state you live in
datura


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: Helixx]
    #8675994 - 07/24/08 11:31 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Thanks guys =]

I added those to the list and will continue to add


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8676475 - 07/24/08 02:00 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Don't forget Kratom!


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: Mankey]
    #8676527 - 07/24/08 02:16 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I don't know the latin names for most of these, but here goes, this is according to canadian law

Amanita muscaria mushrooms
syrian rue seeds (contains high amounts of MAOI's be sure you follow the correct diet at least 24 hours before consumption)
Yage (high amounts of MAOI's as well)
mimosa hostillis rootbark
wild dagga
lions tail
skullcap
damiana
calea zachetachichi (dream herb)
white lotus
blue lotus
sacred blue lilly
opium poppies (be careful with these, it's easy to overdose with pod tea)
prickly poppy
cebil seeds (smoking these makes you nauseas as fuck, probably due to the bufotenine, witch can kill you in large doses)
passion flower (contains MAOI's, small amounts but enough to warrant caution, especialy with the extract)
kanna
iboga
sinuichi
yopo
kava (not sure of the legal status here in canada as I've had trouble ordering it, but some companies do sell it, I know it's legal in the states for sure though)
yohimbe
calamus root
betel nut
Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds
morning glory seeds (ONLY USE THE SEEDS, the leaves are poisonous)
intoxicating mint

I really don't recommend fucking with these, they can easily kill you or cause you to do something stupid enough to kill you... they can cause extreme delerium

belladonna
datura
deadly nightshade
hemlock
mandrake


I know there's a fuck of a lot more, but i can't remember them at the moment, those are just the ones I can list off the top of my head, I'll list some more in a bit.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: LuSiD9]
    #8676585 - 07/24/08 02:36 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Wow, thanks Lusid =D


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8676599 - 07/24/08 02:39 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

no problem :smile::thumbup: ... keep checking every now and then, I've been editing my post as I remember more.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: LuSiD9]
    #8676611 - 07/24/08 02:41 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

Will do =]


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: LuSiD9]
    #8676614 - 07/24/08 02:41 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I've also tried most of the plants/extracts of plants in my list, so if you have any questions about the effects of some of them i'll help as best I can.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: LuSiD9]
    #8676630 - 07/24/08 02:45 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I was mostly going for a list of plants for growers who dont wanna get in shit for growing these kinda plants
However I was thinking about indicating which ones are dangerously poisonous
Like i assume most if not all of them will kill you with too much but a friend of mine got put in the hospital by Detura so I was thinking id put a warning by ones like that
Do you think you could help me at all with that?


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8676652 - 07/24/08 02:50 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

that's funny, I was just about to make a list of some of the more dangerous ones... I'll edit my list again in a sec


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: LuSiD9]
    #8676709 - 07/24/08 03:02 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

alright, thanks a ton =]


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8677766 - 07/24/08 08:32 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

poppies are actually illegal in the united states if they can prove you know their species.... theres a high degree of selective enforcement

say i had some poppies growing in my back yard, that would be acceptable providing i wasnt harvesting them, any evidence of scoring or harvesting and they would come down on you if they saw it

say i had that same patch of poppies and a couple of mj plants. they would assume because you grow mj, then you must be growing the poppies for drugs too, so you would most likely get hit with manufacture of morphine and marijuana, even without said evidence of harvesting

hypothetically speaking, but this is my understanding of the law, im reminded of a post where a user said that a man was prosecuted succesfully for gardening poppies for the seeds to cook with


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: Zinglons Acolyte]
    #8679757 - 07/25/08 09:53 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

So basically you are in shit if you are growing poppies with any of these other plants? o--o


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    #8679762 - 07/25/08 09:55 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

If you're growing poppies with any other plants the cops know are psychoactive or if there is evidence of any of those plants being a precursor to drug production.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8680114 - 07/25/08 11:52 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

sida cordifolia
ephedra
guarana
kola nut
yerba mate
guayasa
b. caapi
catuaba
iporuru
lagochilus
mulungu
pedicularis densiflora, many other psychoactive pedicularis varieties
rivea corymbosa
scotch broom
sinicuichi
wild lettuce
Voacanga
wormwood
Nicotiana glauca
nicotiana rustica
brugmansia
Cyperus articulatus (piri piri)
velvet bean

Then there's tons of adaptogens, and herbs used in chinese medicine and indian medicine and such.  Don't think they are very popular to grow though.


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: Neon]
    #8681174 - 07/25/08 05:13 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Thanks neon =]


So if you grew just a few random poppy plants with some of these plants but the cops didnt know what the plants were you wouldnt get in shit?

Chances are if they are looking through your plants in the first place they are suspicious as it is i spose. o--o


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: fridaynights]
    #8681303 - 07/25/08 05:49 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

its all about intent man...
its the same in england, poppy plants are legal to grow unless they can prove that you are growing them as a means of producing opium...
if you are found to be growing illegal psychoactive plants (mj for example) in conjunction with poppies, under the law it is reasonable to assume that you are growing the poppies as a means of producing drugs also...


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: uarewotueat]
    #8681348 - 07/25/08 06:02 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Makes sense to me

This is rather off topic, but why is there an exploding fireball next to the topic? o--o

Edit: Nevermind, im an idiot XD

I found the legend on the bottom to tell me what the fireball meant


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Re: Legal Psychoactive plants in US/Canada [Re: Mankey]
    #8681438 - 07/25/08 06:28 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Quote:

Mankey said:
Don't forget Kratom!


get on it op!


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