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Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics?
    #8631745 - 07/13/08 10:59 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8631760 - 07/13/08 11:02 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

probably.


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8631786 - 07/13/08 11:09 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Yes, one time I did. I noted a speck of dust on the cover.


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8631788 - 07/13/08 11:09 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

I have. Especially Genesis and Revelations.

I've also tripped and read the Enuma Elish (Original Genesis), The Papyrus of Ani (Egyptian Book of the Dead), and the Bardol Thodol (Tibetan Book of the Dead) which are all far older and much more interesting books.


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #8631800 - 07/13/08 11:12 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

What are your thoughts on tripping and reading those heavy texts? Did you find yourself more open or closed to the ideas presented inside? Did you find yourself interpreting or understanding the material in a different way than you might have sober?


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #8631802 - 07/13/08 11:12 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

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Yes, one time I did. I noted a speck of dust on the cover.




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I have. Especially Genesis and Revelations.

I've also tripped and read the Enuma Elish (Babylonian Genesis), The Papyrus of Ani (Egyptian Book of the Dead), and the Bardol Thodol (Tibetan Book of the Dead) which are all far older and much more interesting books.




Very interesting. I'd love to hear a detailed report, if you remember the details.


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8631820 - 07/13/08 11:16 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

who reads on psychedellics
all i do is jack-off
:mattz:  :mattz:
i love how they named that one mattz after me


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8632373 - 07/14/08 04:18 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

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Very interesting. I'd love to hear a detailed report, if you remember the details.




I usually read on reentry, of course I felt I understood more deeply when high but these stories have myriad layers of meaning.

Lately I've become more interested in the true nature of the human being more than the after life or our origins as a species.


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: JH05]
    #8632515 - 07/14/08 06:35 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Interesting question.. I am sure someone has..


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Re: Has anybody ever studied the Bible on psychedelics? [Re: Middleman]
    #8632538 - 07/14/08 06:49 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Me too. These books are a headache. But I did have an interesting discussion ("study") with someone about something I was confused about:

http://pages.citebite.com/e5m9q4o1gdvx

but can you give me an understandable explanation as to what "...and they shall be tormented for the eons of the eons" means?
Well, I may not give you the same answer that Ray will.
Ray will say that this happens after the millennium during the Great White Throne Judgment when they are cast into the lake of fire
I believe that this is going on now.
That the wrath of God is already being poured out and already abides on the wicked.

That verse is talking about the "unholy trinity"
the beast, the false prophet, and the devil
LOL
Well, all those whose names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire.
But if you really think about it we are "the beast", "the false prophet" and "the devil"

we're the devil?
I believe that "the devil" (Satan) is MAN.
Or at least the carnal nature of man.
Ray believes that he is a spirit being who was created by God and who will also be saved.

There was a post on the bibletruths forums where someone said they thought the serpent in the garden of eden was just a symbol of a part of eve's mind
EXACTLY!!
Look very closely at the temptation of Christ (Matthew 4:19)
Satan offered to give him all that he could see.
Did any of that belong TO SATAN? Or did it belong to Christ already?

Wow. I see, now..
Christ was tempted by His own HUMAN NATURE.
Yup
Another parable
Just as Eve was tempted by her own carnal thinking.



Isaiah 54 is in the context of men warring. Isaiah 54:16 could be confirmation of your theory about us BEING Satan, the waster.
It goes all the way back to Genesis and the garden.
Not just with Eve.
Also with CAIN
Cain represents THE CARNAL/NATURAL man
Who was A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. (Genesis 4:8; John 8:44)




You said you think the Lake of Fire is taking place right now?
yes
Revelation is the Revelation of Jesus Christ
yes
so it's not necessarily the future
nope
Christ was already revealed in the flesh
Now he is being revealed in the spirit


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