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LayYouIn
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Would you fight in a war for your country if....
#8627109 - 07/12/08 11:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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...something crazy went down and everyone you knew was joining the military and all excited about fighting for their country. i mean EVERYONE you knew was doing it and they all expected you to do so as well and you knew that if you didn't, that they would greatly hold it against you.
i keep picturing something like this happening and im the only one that doesn't want to and everyone is harassing me and trying to convince me to join them.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627112 - 07/12/08 11:24 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why don't you want to go?
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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g00ru
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627113 - 07/12/08 11:24 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fuck no I don't wanna die.
It's as simple as that.
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BlindSophist
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: g00ru]
#8627124 - 07/12/08 11:26 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm a pacifist, but I would fight if absolutely forced to.
Peer pressure doesn't cut it, though.
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LayYouIn
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8627126 - 07/12/08 11:28 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said: Why don't you want to go?
im not sure...
it just doesn't feel right...maybe because i dont want to die, maybe because i dont want to fight for this side...?
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: g00ru]
#8627132 - 07/12/08 11:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patton said: I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. You won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.
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Cameron
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627135 - 07/12/08 11:30 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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It depends on the reasoning behind the war. I'd probably suspect illogical patriotism, but go along with it in the end anyways. Anyone up for dieing to satisfy the elite and appease their never-ending power struggles?
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Ender Wiggin
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: thedefone]
#8627140 - 07/12/08 11:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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well if all my friends went and died, shit might as well go cause i wouldnt have anymore friends
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0kehSt0nr
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627150 - 07/12/08 11:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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if it was something worth fighting for. like somebody invading the US. preemptive wars are a no-go, though.
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LayYouIn
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627156 - 07/12/08 11:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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i guess i screwed up the poll by not giving a reason of what the crazy thing was...
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g00ru
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: 0kehSt0nr]
#8627161 - 07/12/08 11:37 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've talked to people that went to war. It's so animalistic. If you don't have instinct, you die. I don't wanna expose myself to that. And if everybody I knew was going to war, that would be a big fucking war. Like, of the everybody dies variety. No thanks, I'll run and hide.
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Ender Wiggin
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Ender Wiggin]
#8627166 - 07/12/08 11:39 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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for reals, if it were ever really bad enough for them to actually want little old me. . . fuck yeah id go, my name will be gone and shit, but you have to fight to keep your country
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Cameron
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Ender Wiggin]
#8627179 - 07/12/08 11:43 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, because what would we be without 'countries'? Not people, that's for sure.
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LayYouIn
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Cameron]
#8627189 - 07/12/08 11:46 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cameron said: Yeah, because what would we be without 'countries'? Not people, that's for sure.
yep. without borders and rulers, we wouldn't make it.
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Ender Wiggin
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Ender Wiggin]
#8627191 - 07/12/08 11:46 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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nope, without country, we would be Canadians
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g00ru
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: LayYouIn]
#8627194 - 07/12/08 11:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually, a lot of us probably wouldn't. If all the national borders dissolved today, lots and lots of people would die.
It would be mostly the fat people that die.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Cameron]
#8627197 - 07/12/08 11:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think it's very easy for people with safe and comfortable lives to say they would never fight for anything.
But upon the realization that there are people out there that do not share your pacifist views and are coming to take from you everything that you have, including your life, most of you would fight.
I strongly believe this.
It's very easy to be a pacifist in a place where you are in no danger.
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Ender Wiggin
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Ender Wiggin]
#8627204 - 07/12/08 11:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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and the fat people are the ones that dont go to war
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g00ru
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Madtowntripper]
#8627207 - 07/12/08 11:49 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, if there were people coming for me I'd fight like a fucking badger. But I'm not gonna go overseas or something like that. Marginal cost>marginal benefit.
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thedefone
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Re: Would you fight in a war for your country if.... [Re: Ender Wiggin]
#8627210 - 07/12/08 11:49 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's very easy to be a pacifist in a place where you are in no danger.
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