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 Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: BoneMan]
#8599015 - 07/05/08 10:36 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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the only way the cop would have been right is if he had gotten you on tape eating the evidence. Then, not only would could you get charged with the drugs, you could get charged with destroying evidence and obstruction of justice.
The cops may have also fucked up their procedure somewhere along the line rendering all evidence gained unusable.
Either way, you got lucky.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: coda]
#8599022 - 07/05/08 10:38 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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The charges were possession of narcotics and tampering with evidence. So yes they may have screwed up their procedure somehow.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: BoneMan]
#8599028 - 07/05/08 10:40 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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yah, definitely, either that or they couldn't prove you were tampering with the evidence or that you had any drugs on you at all.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: coda]
#8599030 - 07/05/08 10:40 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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So is there any point of getting your misdemeanor expunged if it still shows that you've been arrested?
My minor consumption was over 500 plus 16 hrs of classes to get the record expunged, compared to just over 200 and 40hrs of community service w/out the expunging option. Something I've always been curious of.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: BoneMan]
#8599032 - 07/05/08 10:40 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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What kind of drugs. I would definately eat some weed, or small amounts of other drugs.
Would anyone eat a whole sheet of acid? Hell no, I wouldn't.
It would be hard as hell to scarf down some weed though. Uhhkkkk.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: D4NK]
#8599038 - 07/05/08 10:42 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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well, that's the thing, if you were offered a special deal for expungement they might seal the arrest record too. Plus, most states only go back 4-5 years when doing background checks. So if your arrest is old chances are they won't see it.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: HoleSnype]
#8599045 - 07/05/08 10:44 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I got a MIP back in the day. I think I was 16. Got X amount of community service. They wanted me to wash fire trucks. My stupid ass stole the gas card out of one and between me and my friends we ran that damned thing up to almost 1k in less than a week. They had some hidden camera there, but somehow they only caught 1 person using it on tape. The asshole snitched on me. Anyway, my parents saved me on that one. Gotta love small towns.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: HoleSnype]
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: HoleSnype]
#8599065 - 07/05/08 10:51 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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HoleSnype said:
Would anyone eat a whole sheet of acid? Hell no, I wouldn't.
dont be so sure... a friend and I split a half sheet, I ate mine
I didnt go to jail that night, I did get to have a road trip with
my mom the following morning. if it keeps me out of prison, I'll
eat 3 sheets
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: BoneMan]
#8599068 - 07/05/08 10:52 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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It would be hard as hell to scarf down some weed though. Uhhkkkk.
i picked up a sack for a friend of mine, he left the house without smoking a bowl and got pulled over 5 mins later. The 1/8 was one giant nugget and he managed to eat the thing in the time it took the cop to go run is ID and get back to him.
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 Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#8599073 - 07/05/08 10:53 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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WhiskeyClone said:
smearing food coloring from Peanut M&Ms on your lips and eyelids and saying it’s "makeup."
 
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#8599116 - 07/05/08 11:06 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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WhiskeyClone said:
I've never been, but I remember reading this article a while back. I'd like to hear some feedback from those with incarceration experience.
YOU MEET THE NICEST PEOPLE IN PRISON
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Why You Probably Won’t Get Stabbed or Raped if You Go Up the River
You’ve heard all the rumors. You’ve seen all the TV movies. You own The Shawshank Redemption and Oz on DVD. You’ve read all the "You Are Going to be Raped in Prison" books.
Edited for length.
People are never that rude in prison.
I'm sorry but this article does not sound like actual prison, not in Florida anyway. It sounds more like prison is romantisiced than the warehouse that a good friend experienced in 7 years total in Florida department of corrections (A-######) (CFRC, then Brevard CI 1st trip) (SFRC then Tamoka CI then Gulf CI, 2nd A letter trip) .
#1: Accepting a gift from a booty bandit is accepting a sexual advance, the CO's know who the bandits are on the compound and will put a 0-letter in PC if they are seen at commisary accepting gifts.
#2: There is tons of fighting, only fighting is if you go to a YO camp, or if you gamble, run up tabs with the store man (2-for-1), drug debts, politics or bad attitudes.
#3: People get jacked usually if they are carrying a laundry bag full of commisary to their dorm. Or if they have a gold chain and can't fight it'll get jacked.
This won't apply to all DOC facilities, but in Florida people are put through the ringer until they act out, then they go to A/C, D/C or CM*. Which is hell in Florida.
If you want to see how Florida road camps are run still to this day (almost) watch a movie called cool hand luke, that movie was based on actual Florida road camp, and details the snitching and comradery in prisons very well.
Florida DOC still uses the blue pants with white stripe down both legs just like in that movie.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: BoneMan]
#8599282 - 07/06/08 12:13 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I will have to agree with Chemy that that is not real prison, at all in fact.
I read a book called 'Violence', by James Gilligan for class during freshman year of college. I think the mere statement of me actually having to read this book for a college course warrants me to omit an explanation and corroboration for its ostensible credibility and legitimacy.
I'm going to dish out some excerpts from a part of this book specifically targeted at violence and rape in prisons .this book that will completely contradict much of the article whisky clone posted. This is no attempt to discredit the article or you, whisky clone. i just feel the valuable info. in this book needs to be put forth for consideration and elucidated....
"Prison conditions often tolerate and even exacerbate the inmates' pre-existing potential for violence. In fact, the very conditions that occur regularly in most prisons may force prisoners to engage in acts of serious violence in order to avoid being mutilated, raped or murdered themselves."
"Homosexual rape is another even more horrendous and destructive form of punishment endemic to prisons. For example, in one prison holding close to 700 inmates, one of the prison administrators, who was in a position to know, informed me that out of that total number, probably no more than half a dozen men failed to engage in some form or other of regular sexual encounter with men. How did he know that? Because in that prison an "observation gallery" overlooks ever cell in the three tiers of its maximum-security wing so that the correction officers can observe what goes on within each and every cell."
"The conditions that stimulate such rapes (the enforced deprivation of other sources of self-esteem, respect and power, and sexual gratification) are consciously and deliberately imposed upon the prison population by the legal authorities....these authorities tacitly and knowingly tolerate this form of sexual violence, passively delegating to the dominant and most violent inmates the power and authority to deliver this form of punishment to the more submissive and nonviolent ones....rapists in this situation are acting as the vicarious enforcers of a form of punishment that the legal system does not itself enforce formally or directly."
"Homosexual rape is not only tolerated but actually encouraged by prison authorities, primarily because it helps them control the men...prison officers have a vested interest in maintaining the system of prison rape because it deflects the violence of the inmaes away from the officers and onto eachother."
"The natural inclination of the institutional security force is to be tolerant of any type of situation that divides the prisoners into predators and prey, with one group of prisoners oppressing another because such a situation prevents the development of any unity among prisoners that could tear down the institution. A 'homosexual' jungle-like state of affairs is perfect for that purpose. It's another, perhaps the most effective means of control."...........So the underlying incentives to all this are analogous to "Divide and conquer" and "You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours".
"rapes in prison are almost never reported"...I'm sure you guys know why (one of Man's Codes=Thall shall not snitch)
analysis from a court ordered investigation of conditions of a florida prison found that "....a young inmates chances of avoiding rape were 'almost zero.... He'll get raped within the first 24-48 hours. That's almost standard."
....You guys can see that rape is an integral part of the functioning of a prison system, and is no an anomalous chance event....
To end this here are two more very significant excerpts..
"Punishment is a form of violence in its own right-albeit a legally sanctioned form- but it is also a cause of violence, as it stimulates the very same illegal violnce that it is ostensibly intended to inhibit or prevent."
"Punishment does no inhibit or prevent crime and violnce, it does not lower the rate or frequency of acts of violence. Punishment stimulates violence; punishment causes it. The more punitive our society has become, the higher our rate of violence (both criminal and noncriminal) has become."
I would like to hear what you guys think and feel about this information
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: hoopershroomer]
#8599293 - 07/06/08 12:18 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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hoopershroomer said:
"rapes in prison are almost never reported"...I'm sure you guys know why (one of Man's Codes=Thall shall not snitch)
It is ironic that NOT raping another man would not also be on "the code list".... 
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: ShROoMiNnBOOMiN]
#8599914 - 07/06/08 05:54 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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ShROoMiNnBOOMiN said:
i went to jail for a 1 1/2 years. its that attitude people target in those places. just stay out.. jails not fun.
i would like to hear your experience if you are willing to share
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8599924 - 07/06/08 06:04 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I would like to hear what you guys think and feel about this information
I agree that it can be that bad sometimes but I don't think it is usually like that.
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (07/07/08 12:56 AM)
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8599979 - 07/06/08 07:02 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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I would like to hear what you guys think and feel about this information
That is complete BS.
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#1: Accepting a gift from a booty bandit is accepting a sexual advance
When I was locked up other inmates gave me tons of free shit (food, cigarettes, home made alcohol) and they never wanted anything in return.
Maybe its like that in some gay ass Florida prison, but not in most places.
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#2: There is tons of fighting, only fighting is if you go to a YO camp, or if you gamble, run up tabs with the store man (2-for-1), drug debts, politics or bad attitudes.
I only saw fighting among people that were looking for fights. If you get locked up with a bunch of 18 year olds they will be fighting among the various gangs quite a bit but the older people just want to chill out and do their time and leave.
Also it's not very hard to catch a rapist when they are already in custody.
You have no experience in any prison, you have a 30 day very minor term in a county jail under your belt, you were not locked up in a prison, you have no experience to speak on matters of prison.
You didn't understand what I said since I used Florida DOC terms that inmates use, 0-letter means people that get off the bus and are green, some look naive or scared and the bandits will take advantage, I never said forcible rape, more like pressuring naive or scared people into performing a sex act, but like I said there is PC and scared people can check in to Protective Custody and be shipped to a different camp at any time.
The rules for jail are completely different than prison.
People in county jail usually have not been sentenced yet, or are serving minor short terms and are on their best behavior since they don't want add charges.
The same thing you're talking about Cook County applies to Dade County Jail, or Broward County Jail, but not in prison, there is a big difference.
In Florida prisons there is no segregation at all, lifers for murder are put in the same dorm as marijuana cultivators or felony possessors, but anyway there is always a reason for fighting, not like I ever said it was random violence:
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#2: There is tons of fighting, only fighting is if you go to a YO camp, or if you gamble, run up tabs with the store man (2-for-1), drug debts, politics or bad attitudes.
YO camp: Prison for 14-24 year olds that are the worst assholes you can be locked up with, my friend went to Brevard CI and that is the "Gladiator Camp" of Florida.
Gamble: People that gamble sometimes run up tabs and can't pay, then they are stabbed.
Store Man: The loan shark in your dorm, you borrow a pack of smokes today and pay 2 packs of smokes when you get your money sent in from family, people that run up tabs and can't pay get stabbed.
Drug debts: people that run up drug debts and can't pay get stabbed.
Bad attitudes: people get into fights because of bad attitudes.
Politics: My friend has seen too much fighting over politics, it makes no sense but Republican vs. Democrat arguments seem to lead to many fights.
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When I was locked up other inmates gave me tons of free shit (food, cigarettes, home made alcohol) and they never wanted anything in return.
Maybe its like that in some gay ass Florida prison, but not in most places.
Like I said you are talking about a petty county jail, not prison, the same thing happens in Florida jails, people give comissary to their cellmates or friends in the dorm, the same thing applies in Florida prison between friends in a dorm, there is big difference between somebody you don't know offering protection or commisary right when you get off the bus, and making friends in your dorm and sharing commisary.
People in county just stare at the epoxy painted block walls, read books and get fat.
Prison is a much different game, but if you don't want trouble you won't find it unless you go to a YO camp, where trouble will find you day after day because young idiot thugs always want to fight, regular prisons are much more laid back if you are laid back.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: Chemy]
#8600007 - 07/06/08 07:29 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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hoopershroomer, that Violence book looks like a great read. I'll try to get to it this summer.
Prison ain't no fucking place for me, I know that much.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8600812 - 07/06/08 01:27 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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I would like to hear what you guys think and feel about this information
That is complete BS.
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#1: Accepting a gift from a booty bandit is accepting a sexual advance
When I was locked up other inmates gave me tons of free shit (food, cigarettes, home made alcohol) and they never wanted anything in return.
Maybe its like that in some gay ass Florida prison, but not in most places.
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#2: There is tons of fighting, only fighting is if you go to a YO camp, or if you gamble, run up tabs with the store man (2-for-1), drug debts, politics or bad attitudes.
I only saw fighting among people that were looking for fights. If you get locked up with a bunch of 18 year olds they will be fighting among the various gangs quite a bit but the older people just want to chill out and do their time and leave.
Also it's not very hard to catch a rapist when they are already in custody.
 hey mod, wtf is up your ass to say that shit to me? I was just asking what you guys think about that info. DOn't make a completely vague and uneccessary statement and not explain your incentive for it or what the hell it means, that just makes you look like a wack ass mod 
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Where your thought is, there you are.
For you are your consciousness,
and what you meditate upon, you become."
"Everything you could want and could be, you already have and are."
According to the Tao, true words seem paradoxical.
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Re: the tremendously horrible prospect of going to jail [Re: hoopershroomer]
#8600832 - 07/06/08 01:34 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Thefakesunra, yea it is a fantastic read and I highly recommend it. I had to read it during my winter course, and it became one of my fav books. I liked it so much I decided to read it again a month ago, and highlight all of the very informative and valuable points and statements the author made. The highlighting proved to be quite worth it as I typed up the excerpts i posted earlier 
The best thing I learned from the book are two things
"All violence is an attempt to achieve justice"
and "Poverty is the deadlist form of violence" 
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"What you think and feel you bring into form.
Where your thought is, there you are.
For you are your consciousness,
and what you meditate upon, you become."
"Everything you could want and could be, you already have and are."
According to the Tao, true words seem paradoxical.
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