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Printing...outside prints for inside use?
    #8598303 - 07/05/08 07:04 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Is it possible to use a print from an outside grow, and make it so i can use it inside?
Im sure its possible since all mushrooms originate from outside, and were brought inside somehow. But my question is, how would i go about doing this?


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8598351 - 07/05/08 07:20 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Make a spore syringe. Yes it will work. There are several teks. Use the search function. If you have no luck I'll be glad to point you to one.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: MHbound]
    #8598362 - 07/05/08 07:23 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Just print them like you would print an indoor shroom normally. Try to be as sterile as possible, wipe the cap with 70% iso and print. If you can, get a mushroom where the veil has not yet broken, so that you can remove it yourself and result in a cleaner print. It is likely though that you will still have to clean it up on agar before using it on grain, etc.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: tripsis]
    #8598375 - 07/05/08 07:25 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

MHbound you should point me in the direction of a tek, i cant find one.

Tripsis, how would i go about getting the print out of an unbroken veil?


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8598391 - 07/05/08 07:30 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

actually, the best thing to do, is to, using sterile procedure, slice it open, and take a chunk out of the mushroom.. then take that chunk and put in your jar of choice, and you will, in essence, clone that shroom.. grow that jar, and use that jar to make new jars.. then make perfect, sterile prints (that you KNOW are sterile) from the mushies you grow...

If the veil is broken, more than likely the spores will be un-kosher.. its always worth a shot, though...


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8598396 - 07/05/08 07:32 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

It depends on the species/strain and when it start sporulating. Cubes often start before the veil is broken so if you pick it and take the veil off yourself it should still drop spores. Print as you normally would, just make sure when you are removing the veil you don't touch the gill with anything.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: tripsis]
    #8598792 - 07/05/08 09:22 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/8403/Psilocybers-Syringe-Tek

http://www.shroomery.org/8399/TheMilkMans-Sporeprint-and-Syringe-Tek

The first one is my favorite, but the second is just as good.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: MHbound]
    #8598867 - 07/05/08 09:54 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

i know how to make a multi-spore syringe. :wink:
I was wondering about how to make a spore print from an outside mushy, and be able to use it inside still.
but no worries, im going to clone one, and print the other, ive found a pretty decent way to do so.

thanks all for your help.

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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8598881 - 07/05/08 09:58 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Ohhh my bad I'm really sick, and tried to answer quick. Fuck alcohol. Well, you could use agar tek to isolate a strain if you wanted. It takes awhile IMO to get it right. I know someone who did it, but I have never done it personally. I really don't know much past that.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: MHbound]
    #8598905 - 07/05/08 10:06 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

thats what I was saying.. lol.. live culture sample from the wild specimen, and propagate that on your medium of choice...

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but i digress

do a live transfer... lol


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8599227 - 07/05/08 11:49 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

i like you yosha.
but yeah...uh...my honey water is all ready for tomorrow.
im gonna take some of the stalk from the middle of it and drop that shit in there tomorrow in my still-air box.
its gonna be sweet.
Im gonna clone the biggest one that grows.
and im also gonna clone the most retarded looking one (theres a couple of them..lol)


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8599395 - 07/06/08 01:01 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

You'd be better off cleaning them up on agar first. Even from the inner stem you can get contaminants.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: tripsis]
    #8599468 - 07/06/08 01:22 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

should i wipe the outer part of the stalk with rubbing alcohol?
i was thinking of taking some ideas from this tek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEx2dHONdok

more specifically the part where cream sticks the syringe through the stalk. haha.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8599536 - 07/06/08 01:43 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

You can give it a go but you won't be assured a clean culture. If you don't want to do agar work you can but try.

Wiping the outer stipe would probably help minimise cross-contamination with the interior. Try using tissue from where the stipe meets the cap. Break it rather than cut it to open it up, then flame a blade and cut a small section out.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: tripsis]
    #8599541 - 07/06/08 01:46 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Quote:

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Try using tissue from where the stipe meets the cap.




why?


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8599559 - 07/06/08 01:57 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

It's a good, solid area to take tissue from. Stems are often hollow so it can be difficult to get tissue from inside them. Where the stipe and cap meets there a a fair bit of solid, well enclosed tissue so it makes getting clean tissue easier. I've also found the tissue in the cap to be good.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: tripsis]
    #8599801 - 07/06/08 04:05 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

If you want a clean print from outside, print it for 4 hours then change paper (Throw away), print again for 4 hours then change paper again(Throw away),  then leave it over night and the print your left with is going to be as clean as your gonna get it.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8600322 - 07/06/08 10:36 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

hm. interesting.

well i did my clone. i just cut it out of the stem...well kinda rubbed the scissors upward on the inside until membrane peeled back or whatever its called and dropped it in my honey water solution.
im printing 3 caps right now too.

my mushies are drying.
yay!

fan drying them...sucks but all i got...im gonna check the RH of my area to see whats up.

ill let you guys know the dry weight as soon as i know.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8600325 - 07/06/08 10:38 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

nice.. that lil clone will work out for you.. as for the prints, good stuff.. its sooooo handy to have extras laying around.. ESPECIALLY if you are in cali or georgia...

cant wait to see the dry weight...


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8600357 - 07/06/08 10:50 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

i cant wait to show you the dry weight! :tongue2:
but yeah, the RH of my area is in the 30's.
so im thinkin thats not too bad at all.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8600361 - 07/06/08 10:51 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

yeah.. you can fan dry juuussttt fine.. it may take a couple of days.. just make sure you move them around 2 times per day or so... Just so they dry evenly...


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8605471 - 07/07/08 07:10 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

yeah, i fanned, and i picked up some desiccant (damp-rid) today, so that should take care of them by the morning.
I took those 3 caps out of the bag that i was printing them in and they were soggy.
I printed them 3 times so that most of the contams would be gone like someone advised, but there was no visible print after the 2nd time. I only waited 4 hours between each rotation.

I really hope its ok my caps got soggy.
If not, someone should let me know.

I took them out and am going to fan dry them til morning and throw them in with some damp-rid.


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: TheBandit]
    #8605514 - 07/07/08 07:20 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

I actually prefer fan drying over any other method,I hate messy desiccant and for some unexplainable reason just am not  big fan of dehydrators


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Re: Printing...outside prints for inside use? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8605545 - 07/07/08 07:26 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

it came with a tray and something for it to drain into.
$2.49
I just layed my mushies in a circle around it in one of those big plastic ice cream containers and closed the lid.

so, about those soggy mushrooms.....whatcha think?


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