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 Oregon
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#8595917 - 07/04/08 08:05 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Shamans are born Shamans.
One cannot just decide that they want to become a Shaman.
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8596022 - 07/04/08 09:15 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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yes you can. you have to be indie and do salvia once.
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Middleman
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8596076 - 07/04/08 09:43 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Oregon said:
One cannot just decide that they want to become a Shaman.
Source?
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shaman is a word before it is a concept in your head. what does the shaman represent though?
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Magic. I am made of magic shaman shit, MAGIC SHIIIIT
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And there is always some poor kid, who has a sucky life, but then he is visted by someone from a hidden world of awesomeness, who explains to the kid, that the kid is the chosen kid, and everyone is waiting for him, to fight, and to win, and to accept treasure, and to accept love, and to rule the hidden world of awesomeness like the handsome little ass hole that he is. It happens all the time right?
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8596661 - 07/05/08 06:54 AM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Oregon said:
Shamans are born Shamans.
One cannot just decide that they want to become a Shaman.
I completely disagree, and completely agree. A person may be born with all of the skills, temperament, intellect, etc, to be the greatest shaman ever, but until life throws them the cicrumstances to create a crisis that forces them into the shamanic rite of passage (psychosis), it's not going to happen. Although, I guess some try to force it with vision quests and all of that, too. I think it's less genuine at that point, but still profound.
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Smaug
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8597311 - 07/05/08 12:36 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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*nerd alert*
Oh yeah? Well...I became a shaman two years ago and currently sitting pretty at level 70. So there.
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Apollyphelion
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Re: Shamans [Re: Smaug]
#8597883 - 07/05/08 04:07 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Smaug said:
*nerd alert*
Oh yeah? Well...I became a shaman two years ago and currently sitting pretty at level 70. So there.
I'm the motherfuckin' Dungeon Master!
Pencils down, character sheet audit, and the elf-
you're dead.
Game on!;-)
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Cracka_X
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8597892 - 07/05/08 04:10 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Oregon said:
Shamans are born Shamans.
One cannot just decide that they want to become a Shaman.
Do what if I were born a shaman and my powers of shamanism were latent and repressed due to society and I need to find my roots to lead me back to my shaman status.
i'm sorry, but this is a silly thread.
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8600944 - 07/06/08 02:20 PM (3 months, 6 hours ago) |
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You're right.
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/shamn.php
If you have the capability to become a shaman - you will become one. It's not an if or then situation; Shamanistic people become shamans.
You can achieve some of the same things as shaman, but you will not be able to do all of what a shaman does.
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Oregon
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Quote:
jonathanseagull said:
but until life throws them the cicrumstances to create a crisis that forces them into the shamanic rite of passage (psychosis), it's not going to happen.
perhaps the very act of being born was a crisis of sorts, have you considered that?
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fazdazzle said:
You're right.
http://kundalini-teacher.com/awakening/shamn.php
If you have the capability to become a shaman - you will become one. It's not an if or then situation; Shamanistic people become shamans.
You can achieve some of the same things as shaman, but you will not be able to do all of what a shaman does.
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8603648 - 07/07/08 10:24 AM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
Oregon said:
Shamans are born Shamans.
One cannot just decide that they want to become a Shaman.
Ive decided i want to be a shaman.....
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8605739 - 07/07/08 08:20 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
Oregon said:
Quote:
jonathanseagull said:
but until life throws them the cicrumstances to create a crisis that forces them into the shamanic rite of passage (psychosis), it's not going to happen.
perhaps the very act of being born was a crisis of sorts, have you considered that?
Yeah, but I know a lot of people who weren't c-section babies, and aren't shamans.
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Penguarky Tunguin
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What is shaman?
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Chronic777
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Quote:
Penguarky Tunguin said:
What is shaman?
Yeah, if you are you now, then you become a shaman, what has changed?
Who were you before & after?
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I have heard that there is a most terrible initiation involved... Sometimes being ripped apart by trippy jaguars and then ritualistically put back together. Incidentally, I recall seeing a special on T.V. about early jewish priests snarfing mushrooms. There are vague references to J-man being a mushroom noshing drug user (shaman-priest?!?) who could make endogenous D.M.T. Mary supposedly carried T.H.C. infused olive oil in her alabaster jar. John the baptist certainly fit the bill for his peculiar dress and socially inappropriate behaviors. Drugs = evolution...
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Chronic777
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Re: Shamans [Re: Mr.Al]
#8607561 - 07/08/08 09:36 AM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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J-man 
Its only right, the plants are here to be used, they effect our minds for reasons, the main reason imo is for us to be able to see beyond the mind, and of course for medicine
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Oregon
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Quote:
jonathanseagull said:
Quote:
Oregon said:
Quote:
jonathanseagull said:
but until life throws them the cicrumstances to create a crisis that forces them into the shamanic rite of passage (psychosis), it's not going to happen.
perhaps the very act of being born was a crisis of sorts, have you considered that?
Yeah, but I know a lot of people who weren't c-section babies, and aren't shamans.
perhaps not c-section, but had the umblilical cord wrapped around the neck, or was breach.
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Re: Shamans [Re: Oregon]
#8610138 - 07/08/08 09:13 PM (2 months, 28 days ago) |
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My shoulder was stuck and had to be pulled out with forceps. The doctor was so brutal on me that I have a scar on my left cheek from it and cannot wink my left eye.
Kinda a crisis. 
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jonathanseagull
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Quote:
Penguarky Tunguin said:
My shoulder was stuck and had to be pulled out with forceps. The doctor was so brutal on me that I have a scar on my left cheek from it and cannot wink my left eye.
Kinda a crisis.
What's it like being a shaman?  I keed, I keed.
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