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 TurricaN
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 Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience?
#8597792 - 07/05/08 03:35 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Hi everyone, been a while since I visited this site.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has done the Terence Mckenna experience? For those who don't know, this means taking five dried grams of mushrooms in silent darkness.
I'm considering trying it, but I'd like to know if others have repeated it and had similar experiences to those that Terence describes?
Cheers,
Martin
P.S. It's been around a year and a half since I used any drug; I'm really beginning to feel ready for it now, though I'm always not really sure if I'll actually go through with it. 
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: TurricaN]
#8597923 - 07/05/08 04:23 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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lmao whats the worst that can happen! Go for it man. Make sure you have a COMFY bed omfgg
worse comes to worse you turn the lights on
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: ultimo101]
#8598052 - 07/05/08 05:14 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I've done silent darkness on a similar amount of LSD and it was one of the most enlightening experiences of my life. I would imagine mushrooms to be even more awe-inspiring in the visual skyrockets area.
I think McKenna is a total madcap, but he's got some interesting ideas. The way he talks about seeing entities and talking to strange elven creatures is sort of disturbing to me. I think he sort of glosses over "set" a lot of the time. As a matter of fact I think he glosses over a lot of things that don't correspond with his thinking about these substances.
Still, extremely interesting, extrmeley wonderful and weird guy. Just can't really take everything he says seriously.. and even he said as much.
But yeah, sensory deprivation is a good way to get off for sure.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: songcycle67]
#8598080 - 07/05/08 05:24 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Anybody got a link with more info?
Edited by Paulrus (07/05/08 05:27 PM)
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: songcycle67]
#8598083 - 07/05/08 05:25 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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songcycle67 said:
The way he talks about seeing entities and talking to strange elven creatures is sort of disturbing to me.
have you tried dmt dude?
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: elcharrosays]
#8598169 - 07/05/08 06:08 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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i've done the McKenna before, it was the only bad trip i've ever had. i did them with respect, too, i just don't think i was ready for that introspective of a trip.
i saw a lot of disturbing shit and came to wrapped in my sheets with an eaten loaf of bread and an empty gallon jug of water next to me, neither of which i remember getting.
watching Wedding Crashers saved the day though, helped the comedown so much.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: uber_aj]
#8598219 - 07/05/08 06:28 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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ya i dont think i would want to dose up that way for very long
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: elcharrosays]
#8598416 - 07/05/08 07:40 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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No, but I realize that you do see things of that nature; he just seems to imply that they're indenouncably real creatures with real messages.
I've had tons of experiences on LSD where entities have talked to me or communicated ideas to me but I think it's more logical to chalk things of that nature up to the inner mind revealing itself in the form of imagery rather than conscious entities playing games. Either is entirely possible, but generally good science says to go for the explanation that requires the least amount of assumptions. His theories make a lot of assumptions.
Weird is always fun, though. I love his lectures.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: songcycle67]
#8598860 - 07/05/08 09:49 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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try to understand his style.
He does not think they are "real creatures", and if you read into it in that way, well, yer a fuggin idiot.
He's not telling people that elves with pointy ears are living in your fucking brain.
He is an artist, so give him a break.
You know how important understanding primal archetypes and logos are when reading his shit?
I think only certain people really understand t mckenna.
Kinda the same way I feel about people like ayn rand.
He is not talking about real creatures.
He is talking about the scope of the human mind, and that these things are real and you can call them what you want.
He is talking about cognitive skills and strange order within all minds, an order that goes unseen for most people their whole lives.
Where it goes nobody knows.
He was here to interest you very seriously in, "the other" and its general neurological make up/real place in this universe.
The only people who understand what he and his brother were saying are people who actually are fuckin weird and schizo-awsome, like they are/were.
Nope, no "elves".......sorry, thats just a word....get it?
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: yageman]
#8599163 - 07/05/08 11:28 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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whatever you want to call them.. dwarves, elves, spirits, entities.. they're pretty damned real when you meet them.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: elcharrosays]
#8599184 - 07/05/08 11:34 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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God just called, he wants his phone back.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: yageman]
#8599576 - 07/06/08 02:04 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
yageman said:
The only people who understand what he and his brother were saying are people who actually are fuckin weird and schizo-awsome, like they are/were.
The only thing I disagree with is this statement. I think if you just take your time and integrate your psychedelic awareness experience by experience, there's not reason you can't have a breakthrough DMT trip, incorporate it, and remain a perfectly balanced individual.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: guruu]
#8599910 - 07/06/08 05:51 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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i think a more intense experience would be to stand inside a hollowed out tree, and look out on the rest of the forest, while tripping balls on a large dose of LSD, for a given 3-4 hours.
...after a while, you'd start to think you're actually a tree, I'd imagine. That would feel kinda weird, yea?
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#8599930 - 07/06/08 06:07 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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There really are some real tippers on this site to come up with things like that 
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#8600882 - 07/06/08 01:54 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
tyler_0_durden said:
i think a more intense experience would be to stand inside a hollowed out tree, and look out on the rest of the forest, while tripping balls on a large dose of LSD, for a given 3-4 hours.
...after a while, you'd start to think you're actually a tree, I'd imagine. That would feel kinda weird, yea?
Probably, but it would miss the point entirely.
The aim is not to have a weird or intense experience, it is to experience the drug in isolation from the stimulation of the outside world, so that one can experience the drug in a manner that is as close as possible to what the drug itself really is about.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: yageman]
#8600940 - 07/06/08 02:19 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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yageman said:
if you read into it in that way, well, yer a fuggin idiot.
I think only certain people really understand t mckenna.
No need for name calling, especially if you are brilliant enough to be the spokesman for McKenna's literary intent.
Many schools of thought, from McKenna to the Bible to Taoism have been interpreted differently by many groups through time.
I have read much of McKenna and listened to many hours of his lectures. I am in no way an authority on his work, but I am familiar with of what I speak.
"The fractal elves seem to be reassuring, saying, "Don't worry. don't worry; do this, look at this." Meanwhile, one is completely "over there." One's ego is intact. One's fear reflexes are intact. One is not "fuzzed out" at all. Consequently, the natural reaction is amazement; profound astonishment that persists and persists. One breathes and it persists. The elves are saying, "Don't get a loop of wonder going that quenches your ability to understand. Try not to be so amazed. Try to focus and look at what we're doing"...One hears and beholds a language of alien meaning that is conveying alien information that cannot be Englished."
McKenna, Terence. Archaic Revival pg37-38
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: Ledbonzo86]
#8600961 - 07/06/08 02:29 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Also, if anyone has "True Hallucinations" by McKenna and are interested in a trade, let me know.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: TurricaN]
#8601141 - 07/06/08 03:26 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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Quote:
TurricaN said:
I'm just wondering if anyone else has done the Terence Mckenna experience? For those who don't know, this means taking five dried grams of mushrooms in silent darkness.
Not quite, but I've done three grams. Silent darkness is the "classic" way to do shrooms. I thought it was awesome, and highly recommend it. Why not work up to five...no sense starting there. Try it and report back!
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: Nature Boy]
#8601933 - 07/06/08 07:19 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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i did once, years ago. a little over 5 dried cubes. I blacked out for the majority of the trip, stuck in a sleeplike state. I dont remember the 3 hours after the comeup. When i came back i thought about all of the things in my life.. Didn't get much from the trip other than 5 grams is too much for a 17 year old and it made me sign up for the SATS. Would like to try that dose again now, but my stomach has no tolerance for mush anymore.
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Re: Has anyone done the Terence Mckenna experience? [Re: Alicedee25]
#8602025 - 07/06/08 07:38 PM (4 months, 27 days ago) |
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I really only prefer to trip in silent darkness anymore. But not usually on such high doses, although I will be doing that in the near future.
I took 4g of these super potent shrooms one night, and I didn't necessarily have an entity contact experience like McKenna describes, but I definitely felt another presence(s). I basically felt like malicious spirits were trying to use me for the energy I released during my trips. Then I later saw the spirit of a dead woman in the bardo, so I said prayers for her so she may end up in a good reincarnation.
Another time, I ate 5g of some good shrooms and definitely made contact with some archetypes (Life, Sex, and Death). It was actually a really amazing trip with incredibly vivid imagery! Never been able to have visuals like that again, though. And I wasn't even in the dark, I just had my eyes closed on my friends' floor.
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