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 PhanTomCat
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 Re: frustration searching for truth [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
#8585010 - 07/01/08 05:56 PM (5 months, 1 day ago) |
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Chronic777 said:
I wasnt trying to win anything 
Oh, but that IS the beauty of it....... 
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ZackWyldeFan said:
there is no real truth as there is no real lies.
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ZackWyldeFan said:
to gain all truth one must let go and loose everything.
180 degrees much....? 
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Chronic777
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 Re: frustration searching for truth [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
#8587549 - 07/02/08 11:50 AM (5 months, 19 hours ago) |
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ZackWyldeFan said:
there is no real truth as there is no real lies.
Thats true! Although in the search for truth its sometimes good to see the false & real, the false is what appears & disappears, the real is what is always here.
Surely "ultimate truth" must be something that is always here, which means it must be something that is simply overlooked, something so simple we are just missing the obvious, like a blind spot. Thats why when we have moments of realization it seems too simple!
It really is very simple, you are the awareness, but in truth no-one can say what they are, infinite, absolute, immortal, awareness, etc...are nice words but even the word infinite destroys itself as its infinite! And what is awareness? Isit a "thing"? These absolute words cant even touch truth.
So its actually impossible to define who you are, or what truth is, you can only BE it, being comfortable with this enables you toreally let go & opens up many possibilities for insights, then your only problem is clinging to universal insights, which aint too bad tbh 
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 Grapefruit
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Re: frustration searching for truth [Re: Chronic777]
#8590917 - 07/03/08 09:14 AM (4 months, 30 days ago) |
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Surely by the definition of an illusion there can be no truth. The truth could always be an illusion and you'd never know it. We change our minds on subjects too much to ever think we've come to the correct conclusions. Never know whats around the next corner. 
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SatChitAnanda
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Re: frustration searching for truth [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
#8596824 - 07/05/08 09:17 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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This is of course our game to play. There are still shoes to be tied, cars to be driven, food to be eaten and bills to be paid. We can still run marathons, observe the behavior of phagocytes and study brain waves.
As Ken Wilber would say Samsara is the vehicle of Nirvana, can't have one without the other. Finding your true nature is to realize that this is what it wants, which is what you always and already are.
That is the joke, the absurdity of it all. A paradox, to carry out this investigation only to discover ourselves to be one AND two, union AND seperation, brahman AND illusion.
All ideas, concepts and symbols about truth are the farthest from the truth, yet they are pointers beyond themselves to the truth. HA! what nonsense!
Or maybe I have no idea what I am talking about.
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